The lack of a headphone jack is simply yet another excellent reason not to buy an iPhone. What confuses me is why so many people continue to buy Apple products when they're overpriced, locked-down and treat developers like crap.
The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except they clearly explained that they had interference problems with the new camera and the analogue jack, which they don't have by using a digital port. Conveniently, lightning was already there. I agree the situation is not optimal, but please, stop this "they so greedy", "this is only for selling adapters" etc. After all, it's apple's product, and if it doesn't appeal to you, don't buy it. As you have stated you…
> and if it doesn't appeal to you, don't buy it This kind of attitude isn't logical and is in fact extremely dangerous. It's the same argument as "if you don't have anything to hide, why do you mind being spied on by corporations and governments?" It is entirely reasonable and in fact GOOD that people have strong opinions about things even if they do not personally interact or care about the actual thing. When an inc…
I'm definitely not trying to shut down opinions. It's perfectly fine to dislike the removal of the headphone jack.
However, I'm sick of people calling out Apple for being what it is: A capitalistic enterprise. Ultimately, of course they want to make more money. But they have clearly explained reasons other than "sell adapters" (which itself is kind of stupid, since they ship a free one with every iPhone). And after all, they don't control the market. Heck, here in Germany they don't even have 15% market share. It's not like they force the other 85% to drop the headphone jack.
Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM
#143Interesting. All the whining and crying over a stupid headphone jack. It's almost like the complainers had their genitalia caught in their zippers.
Why is everyone cooking up all these reasons for Apple nuking the stereo jack?
Apple told you the reason.
Where is all the distrust coming from that the complainers don't buy that reason?
Space in that phone is at a premium. And nothing they said about the headphone jack was inaccurate.
Technology progresses. Old tech dies. Apple has never been afraid to kill obsolete tech to move forward.
No one should be shocked or alarmed. And certainly not crying.
I'm so tired of the Apple hate. Honestly if you are so alarmed and distraught over a headphone jack please do the rest of us a favor. Do not buy Apple products and stop crying over non issues. If you get cancer then please feel free to shed a tear. But a headphone jack? God some people really need some perspective on life.
Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
So use the dongle?
An Android phone costs less than the dongle.
I know you're joking, and I'm not agreeing with the headphone jack decision, but the dongle is $9.
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMX62AM/A/lightning-to-35-...
Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM
#145> Besides, with only Apple earbuds currently supporting the Lightning audio connection This is just factually incorrect. Even before today's announcement lightning headphones have been available from multiple independent headphone makers, including Bose and Phillips[0]. https://www.google.com/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/tech/dont-panic-...
How about "only Apple earbuds or Apple-approved devices"? Surely, the point is Apple can easily control what works and what doesn't. Whatever the situation is today is no comfort against the potential abuses of the future.
They have been doing this with headphones for a while now. I became acquainted with this when I had some headphones with play/pause, volume controls, and a mic for my iPhone 4S. After the 4S, I bought an Android phone and was sad to learn the volume controls over the 3.5mm connector were Apple proprietary and the only thing I could do with my $150 Klipsh 'phones as play/pause or answer calls - the volume rocker becoming totally useless.
Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
>As an aside, what a strange creature is man that he wants to replace a device which is analogue by nature - ears not being digital after all - with a digital counterpart which is clearly sub-optimal, overly complex and fraught with potential restrictions Well, if you're hearing it it's ultimately become analog. The question is where does it become analog. I can legitimately understand that many people would like tha…
As much as I disagree with Apple's decision, I agree with your point.
I mean, I listen from digital output through my 6s probably 90% of the time since the built-in amp doesn't cut it, but I'm also finding this whole thing ridiculous. I'll certainly not be upgrading to a 7.
Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM
#147Yeah, how Apple of them.
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#148The discussion seems to be easily diverted into one about audio, but I think something that I've not seen in discussion about this issue is the way some app makers have used the analog audio port as a data jack. I've long had the impression this was a workaround that was begrudgingly tolerated by Apple. Though we've all heard about how heavy-handed their app store policies are, so maybe I'm imagining things. But anyw…
Though I can't find the reference offhand, Apple said the adapter would support other "audio jack" tools, specifically calling out the Square payment dongle.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The 3.5mm jack outputs the regular audio data. You could just make it output encrypted data, but that is the same as removing it, all the headphones won't work. The 3.5mm jack outputs an analog signal. It's already been converted from digital data to an analog signal by the phone's DAC chip.
but hypothetically you could send a digital encrypted signal over the audio 3.5mm jack, provided that the receiving device has an ADC and can decrypt.
So D > A > Encr. A > D > A > Ear?
In practice that sounds ridiculous.
Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
So use the dongle?
An Android phone costs less than the dongle.
The dongle comes for free in the box[0].
> In the Box
>> Lightning to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter