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EU Announces That All Scientific Articles Should Be Freely Accessible by 2020

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This will be probably be postponed to 2022. Then, in 2021, they will say that papers will be free only for 90 days.

On what is this based? You mean similar to the timing for the abolishment if roaming costs?

Yep

Re: EU Announces That All Scientific Articles Should Be Freely Accessible by 2020

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Sorry, perhaps this differs from field to field but at least in mine what you say is patently false. Journals have no linguistic editing, no proofreading, and the typesetting is outsourced to India - at least Springer does so, as I know from personal interaction with the typesetters. Articles must be delivered more or less camera-ready according to the journal style. Editorial boards and all editors, as well as as re…

Your last sentence is completely false, at least as far as the physical sciences are concerned. The most prestigious journals have a publication fee. I know for sure that Nature Communications has a pretty hefty fee, more than 5000$, google it. And, trust me, publishing there has a pretty positive impact on your CV. The same concept applies to all open-access journals, including the most prestigious ones. You may wan…

I'm in the humanities, where my last sentence was completely true.

The publication fee for Nature you mention is for open access, not for publishing. Open access fees are very expensive everywhere.

And no, my definition of grey literature is completely fine. Don't come to my university.

Re: EU Announces That All Scientific Articles Should Be Freely Accessible by 2020

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post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your last sentence is completely false, at least as far as the physical sciences are concerned. The most prestigious journals have a publication fee. I know for sure that Nature Communications has a pretty hefty fee, more than 5000$, google it. And, trust me, publishing there has a pretty positive impact on your CV. The same concept applies to all open-access journals, including the most prestigious ones. You may wan…

I'm in the humanities, where my last sentence was completely true. The publication fee for Nature you mention is for open access, not for publishing. Open access fees are very expensive everywhere. And no, my definition of grey literature is completely fine. Don't come to my university.

So don't assume that what applies to humanities applies to every research field.

As you may or may not know, on Nature Communications (and on many other journals of Nature Publishing Group) you can only publish open-access, so that's effectively a fee you have to pay to publish on Nature Communications.

You pay, you get your paper published. You don't pay it, your paper is not published.

As you see, your definition of grey literature includes one of the most prestigious journals in the physical sciences. Time to revise it! Better late than never!

> Don't come to my university.

If I do I hope that at least your colleagues will be able to see beyond their nose, and will know that what's standard in humanities may not be standard in other fields.

> Open access fees are very expensive everywhere.

Which is exactly my point. The EU announces that all papers will be free to read, so open access? Someone must pay. The price will be paid by research groups, smaller ones may not be able to sustain it.

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