Felony – An open-source PGP keychain • Hacker News Board

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by cyphar » Mon, Jul 04, 2016, 4:55 PM UTC

henryboldi wrote: post #33

deanCommie wrote: post #21

Okay, I'll be the contrarian one: I HATE the name. There have already been trends in the mainstream and right wing media that "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", that the NSA only monitors the communication of criminals, and that things like iPhone encryption help terrorists first. With that in mind, can you imagine the reaction that the average lay-person will have when they see a clickbait head…

Fair points. The title was kinda a joke originally and then it just stuck.

There's a "rename" button on Github. It will handle redirects for you. Fixing a future PR nightmare couldn't be easier.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by dom96 » Mon, Jul 04, 2016, 4:59 PM UTC

nickpsecurity wrote: post #135

dom96 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Although I think that the name is also a problem. It feels like most of the upvotes are coming in because of the pretty image in the readme...

I mention the name in passing as others wrote on it. A lot on it haha. Your comment on image is possibly also true. I remember much of the press of another messenging app oriented toward privacy came because it advertised as "the beautiful messenger" with many nice pictures. It was Icelandic with .is site but I don't recall name. Versus competition, wasn't much to say in terms of implemented features or security. The…

> Note 2: I could add Nim to my prior list if there's been any work evaluating it for security-critical applications. Particularly, how it helps or hinders expressing such things plus risk compiler brings in during transformations. Anything on that yet?

Afraid not. Would be awesome to see somebody that is security conscious taking a look at Nim and verifying these things :)

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by superobserver » Mon, Jul 04, 2016, 5:00 PM UTC

yoklov wrote: post #17

henryboldi wrote: post #2

Hi I'm Henry, the creator of Felony I’ve had a passion for politics, history, and programming since the age of 12 growing up in a suburb of Chicago. During my freshman year, I developed an interest in software. A couple of apps and hackathons (programming competitions) later, I was working on my own startups when I made the leap to drop out of high school to become a software engineer at a venture-backed tech startup…

You dropped out of high school your freshman year? i mean you seem smart enough to get by but uh, wow. (fwiw i say this as a college dropout who doesnt regret it at all)

Schools are a way for parents to send their kids to a reliable daycare service. At a certain level, some don't really learn anything there. I did as much as I did (college) to pass among the clueless as normal but wish I had more opportunities to avoid it altogether.

I recall even Snowden dropped out of high school.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by winter_blue » Mon, Jul 04, 2016, 5:01 PM UTC

unixhero wrote: post #116

api wrote: post #104

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There's been a rule: encryption must have terrible UX. Most encryption stuff even has awful UX by command line Linux hacker standards. Now we have an effort otherwise but... cannot... resist... doing... something... to make it unfriendly...

Luksus begs to differ. http://thomasfrivold.github.io/luksus

It's been 2 years since the author last committed to it: https://github.com/thomasfrivold/luksus

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by peterkshultz » Mon, Jul 04, 2016, 5:05 PM UTC

What are the benefits of this over something like Keybase?

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by tmalsburg2 » Mon, Jul 04, 2016, 5:11 PM UTC

GavinMcG wrote: post #140

tmalsburg2 wrote: post #139

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Unfortunately, these endless tangents are becoming increasingly common on HN. I guess these are people who want to show off how smart they are but really don't have anything interesting to say about the topic at hand, so they go for the low-hanging fruits like spelling, layout, titles, and so on.

I don't think that's it. Sure, the name is low-hanging fruit, but it's important low-hanging fruit. Criticizing a name is hardly something that "shows off" smarts. Dismissing everyone for having nothing interesting to say, on the other hand...

A comment about the name is ok, but an endless discussion about it hardly.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by everfree » Mon, Jul 04, 2016, 5:15 PM UTC

Mithaldu wrote: post #76

henryboldi wrote: post #2

Hi I'm Henry, the creator of Felony I’ve had a passion for politics, history, and programming since the age of 12 growing up in a suburb of Chicago. During my freshman year, I developed an interest in software. A couple of apps and hackathons (programming competitions) later, I was working on my own startups when I made the leap to drop out of high school to become a software engineer at a venture-backed tech startup…

Will this thing ever use less than 130MB of RAM? If so, how do you plan to do that?

Just curious: Are you running on a Raspberry Pi or other machine with constrained resources? 130MB is less than 4% of the memory in most modern computers, and less than 10% of most mid-range phones.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by everfree » Mon, Jul 04, 2016, 5:18 PM UTC

peterkshultz wrote: post #145

What are the benefits of this over something like Keybase?

Nice user interface and packaged in a desktop app, I would assume. You can use it in tandem with Keybase for the key discovery.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by tzakrajs » Mon, Jul 04, 2016, 5:19 PM UTC

theli0nheart wrote: post #127

Gargoyle wrote: post #52

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Fork it, name it whatever you want. Problem solved, welcome to open source.

I really dislike this attitude. Sure, you can change the name (or do whatever you want) by forking, but what would that really achieve? Forking for a reason like this without a conversation isn't polite, nor will it likely achieve the best outcome.

What it could achieve is a clone that simply replaces the names and requires very little maintenance. If the community agrees and adopts, then politeness be damned.

Edit: To put the converse: If it's a shitty idea, then no one will use it and it didn't matter that you were polite anyways.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by knorker » Mon, Jul 04, 2016, 5:30 PM UTC

This name is awful. I would never want to contribute to it, nor use it. Nor suggest it to anyone as a solution to anything.

It's the worst name since that framework called "cocaine" with tools and subprojects named after illicit drug market terms.

Yeah, "felony" and "cocaine" are not things I will put on my CV or would like to show up when someone Googles my name.

What's the joke here? That some people are incorrectly labelled felons for what they say and write?

Do you know what most "felons" did to be called that? It's not for what they said and wrote that should be constitutionally protected.[1]

[1] I don't have numbers to back this up. Maybe most people are actually felons for drug possession, but you know what? I don't want to be associated publicly with those actions either. Also do you want to be on this table? https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/...

Violent crime,Murder,Rape, Robbery, Property crime, Burglary, Larceny-theft,Motor vehicle theft, Arson