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>At what point does this become so scary that something happens to increase the taxes on fossil fuels so that consumption will go down? You're jumping to conclusions on the actual solution to the problem. I suggest unpacking this problem a bit more. Given the time scales, and potential delay between addition of CO2 into the atmosphere and consequence, I imagine that we should also be thinking "How do we adjust to our…
"Deal with it" is what you've come up with after "unpacking the problem a bit more"? As the Donald would say, "sad".
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#142This is due to pollution, period. Nothing more, nothing less. Global warming hysteria is a Hollywood fairy tale being pushed to rationalize forcing a carbon credit tax onto all of us. It's just another wealth transfer scam to keep the shackles on the defenseless and the less fortunate. If you don't understand this by now, you're an idiot, because everyone outside of your insulated propaganda bubble already figured it out ages ago. The people pushing this scam need to give it a fucking rest already and move onto their next one, because this one isn't going anywhere and they're embarrassing themselves at this point. If you're going to be evil, at least exude some competence.
Looking forward to this comment becoming light gray and unreadable as the asspained and talentless San Francisco fucktards working on their shitbrained dead-end startups extend their delicate index fingers (connected to hands that haven't struggled through an honest day's work in their entire lives) to click the downvote arrow. I'll wear it as a badge of pride. How about you spend some of that ill-earned VC welfare cash and buy some bleach to drink, you insufferable cuckolds. I hear it's 10% off on Amazon. Help save the world by ridding it of one more parasite.
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Cows and other animal agriculture contributes as much or more [1], to climate change than all cars and trucks. So eating less meat is one good way. > Livestock is responsible for 65% of all human-related emissions of nitrous oxide – a greenhouse gas with 296 times the global warming potential of carbon dioxide, and which stays in the atmosphere for 150 years. -“Livestock’s Long Shadow: Environmental Issues and Option…
Nitrous oxide and Methane both break down in the atmosphere. If we where starting from zero then sure they would both have a large impact but they are both in sufficient quantities that lot's of them are breaking down making the future contribution have a negotiable net effect.
https://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/gases/n2o.ht...
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#144Imagine the startup, who don't have customers yet and just gives up (because what's point, they will not come). The more traction they have, the more snowballish it become.
How regular people can help?
1) Try to use renewable materials around you (bags, not plastic bags, use the fabric)
2) Sort the garbage (don't know about US), but in Europe this is real thing (organic, general, electronics, etc)
3) Try to limit the car or any fossil fuel usage in your household.
3.1) Don't have 1 car per each family member
4) Don't buy and throw away clothes too often, if you do, return to second hand
5) Use energy saver functions at it's max
6) Stop searching for someone to blame and "Just DO IT!" (c) Shia
How IT people can help?
1) Write less energy consumption programs and servers, they eat too much now
2) Move toward real innovations in "green" tech, not the pseudo ones to collect money and bail
Samsung once done the big screen phone, how the iPhone users called them? "Shovel" phones / users. Then came this "innovative" Apple iPhone with the same big screen and it suddenly became "mainstream". Don't be afraid to be first in something good, especially if this is a future of your planet.
Don't expect that someone will make this problems "go away" or people fly away from here. Humans managed to make orbit a trash can too, so we don't go anywhere in far future.
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Stop eating animal-based food. See http://www.cowspiracy.com/ for details.
Cowspiracy's points on GHG emission and water consumption are simply illiterate. They don't recognize the concept of a net flow. (e.g.: carbon that comes out of a cow first went into a cow - via its food - which got apprx. all its carbon from the air)
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I see nothing wrong with drilling an oil well on your own land. Where we have a problem is when you start spreading that oil, or stuff derived from it, in my air and water. For reasons I don't understand, the "property rights and personal freedom" crowd usually (though certainly not always) thinks the freedom to pollute outweighs the freedom not to have your property polluted.
> I see nothing wrong with drilling an oil well on your own land. Yet drilling an oil well is currently illegal on a lot of private land in the US. > Where we have a problem is when you start spreading that oil, or stuff derived from it, in my air and water. Air and water pollution are regulated separately by another group. I don't have any problem with this kind of regulation unless it gets out of hand (classifying…
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Nitrous oxide and Methane both break down in the atmosphere. If we where starting from zero then sure they would both have a large impact but they are both in sufficient quantities that lot's of them are breaking down making the future contribution have a negotiable net effect.
Are you saying that there is a ceiling to how much methane can be up there, and we've reached it?
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#148I planted about 50 fruit trees and bushes when I moved into my new place. I also converted the electric to 100% renewable. Other than dumping my natural gas heater I'm not sure what's left that I can do to help reduce climate change.
Cows and other animal agriculture contributes as much or more [1], to climate change than all cars and trucks. So eating less meat is one good way. > Livestock is responsible for 65% of all human-related emissions of nitrous oxide – a greenhouse gas with 296 times the global warming potential of carbon dioxide, and which stays in the atmosphere for 150 years. -“Livestock’s Long Shadow: Environmental Issues and Option…
This proportion is also likely to go up significantly in the next 30 years. If you want to get a more visceral sense of that, try changing the "Diet" settings in this climate change mitigation model http://tool.globalcalculator.org/ . For more of an eye opener, change the "examples pathways" to IEA 6DS (current trends) and then just manipulate the "Type of meat" parameter. Simply by replacing 64% of expected ruminant consumption (beef, lamb etc.) with other meats (chicken, pork, etc.), we can decrease total worldwide emissions by 43%.
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#149I planted about 50 fruit trees and bushes when I moved into my new place. I also converted the electric to 100% renewable. Other than dumping my natural gas heater I'm not sure what's left that I can do to help reduce climate change.
Your personal choices aren't going to make a difference. If you really want to help, you need to organize with others to make systemic changes to our economy and our energy system. Everywhere in the world, there are fights to prevent new fossil fuel infrastructure from being built and to shut existing infrastructure down. Join them! It's fun.
I've known climate-change deniers. They hold on to their political-economic religion as it literally destroys their world. And they're not the worst. The worst are the enablers, who often call themselves "moderates".
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#150There is a whole lot of climate change evidence coming out that is terrifying. At what point does this become so scary that something happens to increase the taxes on fossil fuels so that consumption will go down? Falling renewable prices are not enough, and use-based taxes are the single best way to let individuals make their own decisions about what/how much to use. Carbon credits are a good market-based solution t…
It's very sad that reefs are dying, but it seems that their whole existence was very much tied to a very specific amount of carbon in the atmosphere. (about 265 ppm co2) The scary thing is that these reefs are so incredibly diverse & their creation took millions of years. Millions of years to create and they can be globally destroyed in just 200 or so years. It's also scary is to consider what else may be balanced ju…
The entire discussion around coral reefs has been going on since I was young and can remember(at least 20-odd years). It was always emotional (think of the children level guilt-tripping, almost), and was always "assumed" and dictated. There was never any convincing, discussing; it was just the way it is and we as young children were to accept it.
And despite all of that, we as a society have spoken the other way around and gone ahead and potentially ruined the delicate environment required for these creatures. It's who a majority of us are. Perhaps not who we should be, or who we'd like to be, but this is largely of our doing and our inability to convince those in power and the rest of society to protect the things we value.