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Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Prediction: in a few days/weeks, Wired will back pedal on this decision under the pretense that they are listening to the feedback of angry users, while the reality will be that they have been hemorrhaging readership because of the decision and reverting it is the only way to try to salvage the mess they created.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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> some of those people with morals As opposed to those without morals who won't white list the trackers or pay up? As opposed to those moral upstanding citizens that run the advertising industry? I don't think that the 'morals' bit needs to be in there, in fact it would be stronger without.

They are asking, please stop using our content without giving something back. We need something from you to continue. Here are two options. Payment, or ads that we'll try and keep ok. The response is, we'll weaponize and win. Or excuses about how I don't contribute anything but might bring in someone who does, so how dare you. You are going to fail. These are not evidence based arguments. It's not to hard to block Ad…

How's the weather up there on that tall horse, mister?

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#144

> we will restrict access to articles on WIRED.com if you are using an ad blocker well, i will restrict my viewing of WIRED.com then. Like completely.

Since they aren't making any money from your visits to their site anyways I doubt they will be losing a lot of sleep.

They will however lose exposure and upvotes on places like HN, which means their overall traffic will drop and they'll lose money like that instead.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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What adblocker are you using? I've tried a couple and have had no issues viewing Forbes. Just have to click past the "quote of the day"

Ad Block Plus is my main ad blocker, but I had better check to see if the conflict is with another Chrome add-on.

uBlock Origin doesn't run into any problems on Forbes.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#146

I'm generally not inclined to fully whitelist anyplace because even if everything it loads today is safe, who's to say what's going to be loaded after the site gets hacked. That said, I tried to go through and do some allowing of requests and scripts for places I recognized, including whitelisting the site in Ghostery to keep it from interfering. After adding 19 separate exceptions in uMatrix for both whole domains a…

It is crazy what kinds of BS you find when you run something like Little Snitch for OSX. On a fresh install of Firefox before I've had a chance to download adblock, there are two dozen popups requesting outbound connections... most of the time, I have NO idea who is behind the request or what these request really want. This is just the start page... news pages are even worse. Run some apps with Little Snitch turned o…

Funny, I just bought my first RPi in order to run Pi-Hole. It works decently from my daughter's tablet. I enabled it on the router so the whole house is covered, but due to uBlock I hardly ever see ads on computers. The nice thing is having "boring text" instead of colorful ads on tablets makes them a much smaller target for kids to tap on.

I will say that the installation process can be somewhat painful if you deviate from the norm. I didn't want to use Google DNS and instead opted for OpenDNS, plus I wanted my own directory structure, etc...

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#147

Prediction: in a few days/weeks, Wired will back pedal on this decision under the pretense that they are listening to the feedback of angry users, while the reality will be that they have been hemorrhaging readership because of the decision and reverting it is the only way to try to salvage the mess they created.

Why is losing readers who make you no money a bad thing?

It lowers their hosting costs therefore it actually makes them money. People who don't use adblock, whitelist, pay the fee for ad free all make wired money and will continue to read it.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Exactly. The best part is it doesn't even need to be blocked in the client. I'm running Pi-Hole: https://pi-hole.net/ with DNS Crypt: https://dnscrypt.org/ on a couple of Raspberry Pi 2s on my network acting as internal caching name servers. Sure, I also run uBlock, but I don't even see ads on mobile apps because they're all blocked via DNS long before the client even has to parse it.

Do you want to start a tit-for-tat war? Publishers could redirect ads using their sites as a proxy.

There's no war. It's simple. I choose what I allow to run on my computer. End of story. It's the height of arrogance that all of these companies, both the publishers and the ad tech firms, think they can do whatever they want to users with no recourse. I bought the computer to serve my needs, I have control over how it functions to do so.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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I'm using Adblock Plus local proxy on my unrooted Android tablet. I clicked the link and got a completely white page. I copied the link in Google Translate and I could read the page (clicked the button for the original version).

I understand that Wired has to pay its staff but it's a uphill battle.

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