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The point of the article is that REST, as originally described, DOES NOT encourage creating a CRUD interface for every single resource. That's very typical for the simplistic Rails-style of REST, but that's not the original intent. And that's just the point and why those of us who care about web-friendly API design get a bit "zealous." Imagine, if you will, that someone's complete argument about the pros and cons of…
Your last two sentences are hand to understand since you seem to be conflating the internet with the web. They're not the same thing.
Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST
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Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST
#142I've spent many months over the past few years trying to really understand REST in order to design a good API and it never quite sat right - there was always something that seemed like a hack. I'm not going to pick through the OP post, except this line: "a REST endpoint can return whatever you want" Yep. I know this and have done that: an endpoint to return complex data. And it never felt right - either I make a bunc…
Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST
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REST is one of the worst tech religions ever created yielding the most blinkered zealots... Any alternative technology ... is considered an evil intrusion invalidating the purity of REST and must be vanquished. What a reasoned, sound, rational discourse. Good thing zealotry should be shat upon. No we must develop and shoe-horn all App and User experiences within the constraints of an ambiguous thesis that was built t…
> Wow. Pretty harsh, considering that the author of said "ambiguous thesis" is also one of the handful of people responsible for defining the very infrastructure which makes your diatribe possible to disseminate. Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet which re…
Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone
of the Internet and what made the Internet
possible, HTTP was invented before Roy
dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy
kudos for inventing the Internet ...
Hi strawman[1], nice to see you again. I specifically stated that Fielding, Berners-Lee, and Frystyk were responsible for defining HTTP. A fact well documented by the aforementioned RFC-1945 reference. Since your reply was submitted by some form of HTTP client (a.k.a. "web browser"), by definition it used said protocol or the derivative "HTTPS" protocol to do so.This is further supported by you acknowledging the same:
... the thing that makes the web platform
powerful is modern web browsers ...
You see, these "modern web browsers" support a thing called "HTTP." And this "HTTP" thingie was defined by a handful of people (this sounds familiar).Regarding web client performance verses native apps, you state:
Which Despite its primary focus and
decade-long head-start it's still getting
eaten by Native Mobile Apps ...
This largely can be explained by bloated JavaScript-based SPA's[2] downloading megabytes of interpreted code. Want faster performing interaction? Don't stuff dozens of script references into a page which mandates the system to download them before being useful.How could this be done? One is called Code-on-Demand[3]. But for this to be viable, the system must recognize the server as being a first-class concern which collaborates with its clients instead of being a glorified data base connection pool. But if a person is myopically focused on what executes solely in the browser, this might elude them.
> you'd prefer whatever Facebook tells
you is better?
No people should learn to think for
themselves and use their experience to
pick the best tool for the job ...
Here's a point we agree upon. Nice to end it on a high note.1 - http://www.asa3.org/ASA/education/think/strawman.htm
Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Wow. Pretty harsh, considering that the author of said "ambiguous thesis" is also one of the handful of people responsible for defining the very infrastructure which makes your diatribe possible to disseminate. Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet which re…
Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet ... Hi strawman[1], nice to see you again. I specifically stated that Fielding, Berners-Lee, and Frystyk were responsible for defining HTTP . A fact well documented by the aforementioned RFC-1945 reference. Since your rep…
Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Wow. Pretty harsh, considering that the author of said "ambiguous thesis" is also one of the handful of people responsible for defining the very infrastructure which makes your diatribe possible to disseminate. Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet which re…
Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet ... Hi strawman[1], nice to see you again. I specifically stated that Fielding, Berners-Lee, and Frystyk were responsible for defining HTTP . A fact well documented by the aforementioned RFC-1945 reference. Since your rep…
Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Wow. Pretty harsh, considering that the author of said "ambiguous thesis" is also one of the handful of people responsible for defining the very infrastructure which makes your diatribe possible to disseminate. Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet which re…
Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet ... Hi strawman[1], nice to see you again. I specifically stated that Fielding, Berners-Lee, and Frystyk were responsible for defining HTTP . A fact well documented by the aforementioned RFC-1945 reference. Since your rep…
Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Wow. Pretty harsh, considering that the author of said "ambiguous thesis" is also one of the handful of people responsible for defining the very infrastructure which makes your diatribe possible to disseminate. Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet which re…
Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet ... Hi strawman[1], nice to see you again. I specifically stated that Fielding, Berners-Lee, and Frystyk were responsible for defining HTTP . A fact well documented by the aforementioned RFC-1945 reference. Since your rep…
Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Wow. Pretty harsh, considering that the author of said "ambiguous thesis" is also one of the handful of people responsible for defining the very infrastructure which makes your diatribe possible to disseminate. Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet which re…
Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet ... Hi strawman[1], nice to see you again. I specifically stated that Fielding, Berners-Lee, and Frystyk were responsible for defining HTTP . A fact well documented by the aforementioned RFC-1945 reference. Since your rep…
Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Wow. Pretty harsh, considering that the author of said "ambiguous thesis" is also one of the handful of people responsible for defining the very infrastructure which makes your diatribe possible to disseminate. Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet which re…
Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet ... Hi strawman[1], nice to see you again. I specifically stated that Fielding, Berners-Lee, and Frystyk were responsible for defining HTTP . A fact well documented by the aforementioned RFC-1945 reference. Since your rep…
Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Wow. Pretty harsh, considering that the author of said "ambiguous thesis" is also one of the handful of people responsible for defining the very infrastructure which makes your diatribe possible to disseminate. Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet which re…
Actually no, TCP/IP/DNS is the backbone of the Internet and what made the Internet possible, HTTP was invented before Roy dropped his thesis. People like to give Roy kudos for inventing the Internet ... Hi strawman[1], nice to see you again. I specifically stated that Fielding, Berners-Lee, and Frystyk were responsible for defining HTTP . A fact well documented by the aforementioned RFC-1945 reference. Since your rep…