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Re: Speed matters: Why working quickly is more important than it seems

#141

Post by travjones » Sat, Aug 15, 2015, 2:52 AM UTC

gress wrote: post #140

travjones wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First, that's not the reply you were talking about when you stated that I was being dismissive above. Yet, your interpretation is still wrong. Second, except for the first sentence I didn't even use the term "behavior analysis" and instead used the term "science." Nowhere in that reply did I suggest that "discussions about behavior that do not solely use behavior analysis" should be dismissed. Throughout this discuss…

Now you are being intellectually dishonest. You didn't use the term behavioral analysis in that specific reply. True, you used he word science, but this is irrelevant to the fact that you were dismissive. Attempting to evade this through being pedantic rather supports my point.

I'm not being intellectually dishonest nor am I being pedantic. That's kind of offensive. Nowhere in my post did I suggest that behavior analysis was THE ONLY way to conceptualize "the mind" or whatever we are talking about at this point. Yet, that's what you're accusing me of saying. It's ridiculous because all of our words are above. I don't want to argue with you, but you're wrong.

Nonetheless, you are arguing with me. You responded to my comment. I would rather you not tell me what I think or what what I said, when the facts don't show it.

Re: Speed matters: Why working quickly is more important than it seems

#142

Post by gress » Sat, Aug 15, 2015, 5:49 PM UTC

travjones wrote: post #141

gress wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now you are being intellectually dishonest. You didn't use the term behavioral analysis in that specific reply. True, you used he word science, but this is irrelevant to the fact that you were dismissive. Attempting to evade this through being pedantic rather supports my point.

I'm not being intellectually dishonest nor am I being pedantic. That's kind of offensive. Nowhere in my post did I suggest that behavior analysis was THE ONLY way to conceptualize "the mind" or whatever we are talking about at this point. Yet, that's what you're accusing me of saying. It's ridiculous because all of our words are above. I don't want to argue with you, but you're wrong. Nonetheless, you are arguing wit…

I'm not wrong about you being dismissive of anything except what you deem to be 'scientific'.

Re: Speed matters: Why working quickly is more important than it seems

#143

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Aug 15, 2015, 8:27 PM UTC

gress wrote: post #142

travjones wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not being intellectually dishonest nor am I being pedantic. That's kind of offensive. Nowhere in my post did I suggest that behavior analysis was THE ONLY way to conceptualize "the mind" or whatever we are talking about at this point. Yet, that's what you're accusing me of saying. It's ridiculous because all of our words are above. I don't want to argue with you, but you're wrong. Nonetheless, you are arguing wit…

I'm not wrong about you being dismissive of anything except what you deem to be 'scientific'.

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Re: Speed matters: Why working quickly is more important than it seems

#144

Post by travjones » Sat, Aug 15, 2015, 8:55 PM UTC

gress wrote: post #142

travjones wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not being intellectually dishonest nor am I being pedantic. That's kind of offensive. Nowhere in my post did I suggest that behavior analysis was THE ONLY way to conceptualize "the mind" or whatever we are talking about at this point. Yet, that's what you're accusing me of saying. It's ridiculous because all of our words are above. I don't want to argue with you, but you're wrong. Nonetheless, you are arguing wit…

I'm not wrong about you being dismissive of anything except what you deem to be 'scientific'.

You are wrong. I'm not sure what your claim is now, but you were accusing me of suggesting "that behavior analysis is the only valid approach to any topic concerning human behavior." Nowhere in any of my posts did I make that claim. This makes your quote factually incorrect.

This discussion (which has now devolved into an argument) began when you stated that I was "advocating a return to strict behaviorism." This was also incorrect, so I clarified.

I honestly don't have a problem with you, but you have been kind of attacking me in this thread. When you told me that my tone was condescending, I apologized because I know that my words can have an affect on people that I didn't intend. At this point you are offending me by claiming I said things I didn't say and attempting to characterize me as someone who ignores all viewpoints except for BA. Yet, our entire conversation is recorded above and does not support your claims.