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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by fragmede »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #56

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

Windows is becoming irrelevant, Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough', and worst of all, Microsoft completely missed the boat on mobile.

The Microsoft of old would have died out eventually. What we are seeing is not something you see often - a behemoth of a company doing a 'pivot'.

What would you do remain relevant in the face of the majority of the internet services not going anywhere near Microsoft for material income?

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by aruggirello »

I've got the power!? Wow, MS took my request so seriously!

This was my last comment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9438293

> By installing Visual Studio Code, you agree to the terms and data collection described here

Just curious, but I can't seem to find the terms.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by gbl08ma »

The description says it's lightweight, but on my machine it uses over 200 MB of RAM with no files open, and appears to be a Chromium-based thing, much like Atom (as others pointed out, it's based on Electron). Meanwhile, Sublime Text is using less than 100 MB of RAM with dozens of files open, some of them quite big. Visual Studio tends to use less memory than this, too. If "the language services [Microsoft] built for Visual Studio Code [are going to] be available in other editors as well", then I will definitely pass on this one (and this, assuming I ever get interested in developing in .NET again).

On second thought, for now this looks nothing more than a marketing trick, very well pulled off.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by tracker1 »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #56

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

I actually tried it for about a half hour, and so far like it a lot... I don't know if/what plugins will become available. I do like that the side menu makes it much easier to show/hide the file directory view (which is indispensable imho). Also, the git integration seems very nice, I haven't tried it as I'm editing via a samba share to a nix machine and don't want to screw up the file permissions.

A couple nitpicks...

* There doesn't seem to be a way to set the file encoding... can I assume that files will always be saved in UTF8 w/o BOM? * There doesn't seem to be a way to set line endings... can I assume that files will always be saved with unix (lf) line endings? By extension, will this fix windows line endings, or mixed to LF line endings? * It would be really nice if there was an integrated command prompt, similar to cloud9's, that could be shown/hidden. Configurable to use a given shell (in windows, I'd prefer a git-bash prompt).

All in all, really nice work, and this may well replace sublimetext everywhere for me. I don't use any of the more advanced plugins with sublime, and I actually like the VSC editor's UI more. They seem to have burrowed the hotkeys from sublimetext.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by stephenr »

yueq wrote: post #107
krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Those products were under development in Ballmer's time but it seems Satya took the credits.

You're suggesting that the same guy, who told his own kids "no you can't have an iPhone, iPod or iPad, you have to use a windows/zune/whatever device", and then after leaving Microsoft, bought a basketball team, and told them they could no longer use their existing Apple products, would have OK'd the release of a cross platform development tool...

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by brador »

fragmede wrote: post #131
nothrabannosir wrote: post #56

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

Windows is becoming irrelevant, Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough', and worst of all, Microsoft completely missed the boat on mobile. The Microsoft of old would have died out eventually. What we are seeing is not something you see often - a behemoth of a company doing a 'pivot'. What would you do remain relevant in the face of the majority of the internet services no…

A behemoth doing a pivot, but a pivot to what? And how are they going to monitize it?

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by aceperry »

This is definitely a big and newsworthy announcement from MS Build. And one of the few times that linux was given any respect as a platform. I think it still remains to be seen as to how serious MS is about real cross-platform products and work, but it's a great step. If they make their cross platform products roughly equal, not like that mono crap, then I would consider that to be a real effort by MS.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by ashwinaj »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #26

Holy shit. I wonder if this will be open sourced in a way that would allow Visual Studio intellisense in Sublime Text. I want that for C++ so bad.

Intellisense on Linux for C++ will be awesome. Sublime Text 3 is sorely lacking this feature :|

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by tracker1 »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #126
pyre wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even when Microsoft 'Embraced and Extended' Java, it was only on the Windows platform. It was not cross -platform. The whole point of that methodology wasn't to make sure that everyone was using Microsoft-flavoured Java, but to make sure that everyone was using Microsoft-flavoured Java on the Microsoft Windows platform.

It was not cross-platform Cross-platform didn't mean much in 1995. Which other platform was there at the time? Apple was dead in the water. Red Hat had just come into existence. Netscape Navigator 1.0 had just shipped in December 1994.

Arguably windows didn't have the hold it does now in 1995... in 1995, DR-DOS/Desqview and other UIs were prominent, and OS/2 was more popular as a desktop than Linux has ever been (as a ratio), not sure about OSX today. That also doesn't count Apple's penetration at the time which really wasn't as insignificant as you make it out to be.

A lot of that changed starting with Windows 95. Though, it's really 1998 that MS practices in terms of embrace/extend/extinguish was at their top.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by chc »

yueq wrote: post #107
krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Those products were under development in Ballmer's time but it seems Satya took the credits.

Ballmer was CEO for over 14 years, during which very little of this happened. While some of this was obviously being worked on under him, I find it hard to buy the idea that Ballmer did all the work and Nadella just swooped in and took the credit.
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