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Poor Kids of Silicon Valley

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Re: Poor Kids of Silicon Valley

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For people saying "Just move": I lived on the West Coast (Washington State and two places in California) for about ten years as a military wife. I had to leave California during my divorce because I could no longer afford it. I returned to California three years ago as a homeless person. I returned for my health. My medical condition is hellaciously debilitating and expensive to treat. Being not so sick to begin with…

Hm, stockholm syndrome?

We live in place with better climate than California, 100 meters from sea. Our total monthly expenses for 3 member family, are probably lower than most people in SV pay for rent. We rent nice house, insurances, school, etc...

Re: Poor Kids of Silicon Valley

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It skips some important points. The cost of living is high due to zoning laws and a lack of building. Subsidizing families' rent will just make existing landlords richer. It would just drive rents up further. What is needed to get fewer people bidding on the same unit. If landlords are finding <1 suitable tenants per vacancy then suddenly it becomes a renter's market.

On top of more housing, we need better public transit. Start with running Caltrain every 10 minutes. Change local transit so that it becomes a feeder to/from Caltrain, BART, etc. And make it cheaper.

I'm usually against taxes in general, but I'm actually for increasing taxes and using that to have a completely free mass transit system across the entire Bay Area. This would provide a tremendous benefit for everyone.

The problem is that unions will take advantage of all that money and increase wages and pension benefits for their workers instead of hiring more workers and increasing employment in general. This is what happens when there's an influx of money, it causes inflation.

Re: Poor Kids of Silicon Valley

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post #72

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I think the parent commenter was being sarcastic and would agree with you.

This is hilarious. California is so liberal that people are taking my sarcastic comment literally.

What always surprises me is that in the US "liberal" means left leaning and pro government intervention. Which is basically the opposite of liberalism.

Re: Poor Kids of Silicon Valley

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In SF, building regulations includes very powerful neighborhood groups with the ability to make arbitrary changes to projects. The net result of their involvement tends to be less housing at higher cost. There are also many areas zoned for a maximum height of zero feet. As for how to be involved, start by looking up who your city councilperson is. Talking to them would be a good start.

> There are also many areas zoned for a maximum height of zero feet. The smartass in me wants to say, "then build subterranean homes/buildings" :) Would suck in terms of natural lighting but it would be nice to see the faces of people who want those zones to be like that.

People would rent subterranean apartments in Silicon Valley.

Re: Poor Kids of Silicon Valley

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post #35

I dont get it. One person on video lives in nice bedsit (garage) and talks about homeless.

She was homeless before she got the garage.

I think they placed her there in the beginning so that your average white middle-class CNN viewer could relate a bit more to the stories of the homeless to come.

Re: Poor Kids of Silicon Valley

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TLDR: Had an offer to relocate to Sillicon Valley, refused because of the poor/homeless people all around.

Full version:

A couple of years ago I had this offer to relocate to Sillicon Valley to work at my company's new office there. H1B visa, great salary, incredible project, a dream come true.

I live in Barcelona and there are few cities in the world which can compete with the Barcelona package, even during times of 'crisis' - great climate, beautiful architecture, laid back lifestyle and great cuisine.

San Francisco was one of those cities and I didn't want to miss the opportunity now that I had it. And Sillicon Valley - it's like coming to the centre of the tech world where history is being forged.

So I came over to explore and see if it makes sense to relocate.

It was my first time visiting the United States and I was so excited !

I had Scott McKenzie playing in my headphones when my train arrived in San Francisco. It was an emotional moment and I almost felt bad that I didn't have a flower in my hair :).

It felt incredible to be there. People were smiling and saying 'Hello', there were techies everywhere and the city looked very nice indeed. I went to Haight Ashbury and then the Golden Gate park, some guy offered me a joint and I just sat there listening to drummers and looking at the great, powerful oak (? pine ?) trees surrounding me.

The air, the drums, the joint put me in a state of trance and I felt as if the city started speaking to me - "Come here, in here there is power, this is the place to be if you want to change the world'. I've felt it's power, I felt it's might, I've felt that it's now or never.

But there was something else in it's tone. A kind of strange arrogance and slight bullying, a kind of 'either you're with me or get the fuck out of here' kind of vibe.

At first I didn't give it much thought when I saw the homeless people - drunks, addicts, ex cons, whatever... But then I started to notice that there's lots of them in the city and as it started to get dark, the streets became filled with these people - fucked up, strange and scary, outcasts, abandoned, ignored, useless... I almost ran back to the train station.

The next days that I stayed there I couldn't help but see homeless and the poor people everywhere and I just couldn't comprehend it.

How is it possible that the place were the greatest fortunes are made is filled with so many poor people ? I mean, I know it's their lives and they're responsible for that... but still ? Why did they get to this state ? Is the society there so 'cruel' that you either make it or fuck off ?

How come there are no homeless (or at least bum-looking) people in Barcelona ?

This contradiction was one of the reasons that I refused the offer to relocate. I can't explain it rationally - rational people don't base their decisions on such ridiculous details - but nevertheless it's been a big factor in my decision.

But there is food for thought there.

That said, I still want to come back to San Francisco and Sillicon Valley, seems like there's so much to explore there. And I know I will, probably soon and maybe then I will be able to understand it better. But for now, it's in my list of mysteries.

Re: Poor Kids of Silicon Valley

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post #41

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Moving is expensive too. If you're hand-to-mouth poor, you cannot afford a rental truck, let alone time off work and still feed your children. You will probably lose your job if you move, and not find another one where you land, especially if you're in the service industry. Good luck with that East bay -> peninsula commute on your minimum wage. The reason many cannot get jobs other places is due to felonies or other…

When times are tough, moving does not need to be expensive. Before I moved to SV, I sold or donated everything I couldn't fit in two suitcases. I moved into an affordable house where I share a bedroom with 3 other people. I would be able to make rent with only $20k/year. I know not everybody can divorce themselves from all of their belongings, especially large families. Additionally, I didn't have to worry about scho…

You can divorce yourself from your belongings because it's easy for you to find work and quickly replace your belongings. If you know you'll have to sleep on concrete for the next 5 months because you won't be able to find work, you'll carry your mattress with you.
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