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We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by coldtea »

hueving wrote: post #112
rbanffy wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What does MS gain? Image. Microsoft's message has been it's a one-stop-shop for your IT needs, as opposed to the general open-source ecosystem where everything has a different vendor (if at all). This, and the difficulty of moving to other platforms/vendors/tools was the core of its vendor lock-in power. In the 80's and most of the 90's, I went full Microsoft, from runtime to database to developer tools, because ev…

You can't just buy image. If anything it would just dilute the image of github. It's like the rich kid trying to make friends by buying the basketball court.

>It's like the rich kid trying to make friends by buying the basketball court.

You'd be surprised how effective that can be...

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by aggronn »

tzs wrote: post #106

Are there any major public repository hosting services that provide good organizational tools for multiple repositories? GitHub, as far as I have been able to determine, only supports a flat list sorted by last update. This is annoying when a developer has a lot of repositories. I'll come across something useful in one of my areas of interest from a given developer, and then want to look at their other repositories t…

I think the idea is that you should have grouped projects broken out into organizations?

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by pistle »

Joeboy wrote: post #40
bcantrill wrote: post #17

This is getting terrifyingly close to my prediction that Microsoft should/would/will buy GitHub. When I first started predicting this two or so years ago, it was mainly for its comedic value (it always got laughs, followed by "yeah, they should!" followed by nervous laughter followed by "wait, do you think they would actually do that?!"), but after the open sourcing of .NET I honestly think anything is possible. Espe…

Microsoft or otherwise, I don't think the idea that GitHub is going to be run like a public utility forever is a smart bet.

Private repos cost and there is, and will be, a sufficient demand for such a purpose. Between nuget for package mgmt and github (instead of TFS, etc) you are looking at having important, common pieces available. This makes it extremely comfortable to be in the MS dev camp and still feel that you can interface with others and be sharpening the sword in ways that enable you to build cross platform and potentially jump platforms as necessary.

People have seen experienced .net devs picking up in a wide assortment of communities. Some interpret this as mind flight, or it might just be that the .net ecosystem has made some wise choices that enable devs raised in the ecosystem to not feel their world has silo walls. It's less "no, this" and more "yes, and."

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by a3n »

brudgers wrote: post #39
bcantrill wrote: post #17

This is getting terrifyingly close to my prediction that Microsoft should/would/will buy GitHub. When I first started predicting this two or so years ago, it was mainly for its comedic value (it always got laughs, followed by "yeah, they should!" followed by nervous laughter followed by "wait, do you think they would actually do that?!"), but after the open sourcing of .NET I honestly think anything is possible. Espe…

I've been listening my way through the archive of Scott Hanselman's hanselminutes podcasts. Microsoft has been striving to be on the right side of history in regard to open source for five or six years. It's all out in the open. Moving to Github is simply developer friendly. Don't misunderstand me. Microsoft's products compete with open source software in the marketplace for developer mindshare and I am not suggestin…

"Only if Github is selling."

Everyone is selling, for the right number of billions.

"We are excited about this new stage, because we are better positioned to ..."

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by edpichler »

Microsoft has being doing good decisions lately. They are becoming more open, also integrating more with industry leaders. Another good strategic decision they made was the partnership with Dropbox (https://blog.dropbox.com/2014/11/dropbox-microsoft-office-pa...) not mattering if they already have a similar service (OneDrive).

To me, these are signals of a good administration. This company is changing to keep growing, and I believe it is working. It's not the same Microsoft we knew a decade ago.

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by chrisdone »

edpichler wrote: post #136

Microsoft has being doing good decisions lately. They are becoming more open, also integrating more with industry leaders. Another good strategic decision they made was the partnership with Dropbox ( https://blog.dropbox.com/2014/11/dropbox-microsoft-office-pa... ) not mattering if they already have a similar service (OneDrive). To me, these are signals of a good administration. This company is changing to keep growi…

Call me cynical, but the first thing that springs to mind with these kind of opening up is the sign of a company no longer with the bullying power to not care about being open. Rather than these changes occurring because a hierarchy of managers had a change of heart (look guys, they learned that open source is good!), a market share drop from 97% to 20% makes you humbled and reconsider your strategy, and products that don't yield returns are just sitting there and might as well be open sourced because it fosters good will in your company. IBM had to do it. Microsoft are doing it. Apple won't be doing it now that they're the big boys in town. Compare their Swift language which will remain proprietary for as long as Apple can get away with it, just as Microsoft has always done.

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by nawitus »

nailer wrote: post #108
nawitus wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to add that a lot of "cool kids" code in TypeScript, which is a Microsoft project.

I love TypeScript, and I wish it was more popular outside Microsoft, but it isn't.

I'd say it's relatively popular. It's also growing quite quickly:

http://blog.javascripting.com/2014/07/28/fastest-growing-new...

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by jobvandervoort »

p0nce wrote: post #27
EarthLaunch wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's plenty of competition, from Bitbucket, which is better. "Social" effects notwithstanding, of course.

My only complaint about bitbucket is that I want to see the code easily, not click through heaps of buttons to do that.

Consider using GitLab. GitLab.com gives you unlimited private repositories for free and is more friendly to use than bitbucket.

(note: I'm a GitLab employee)

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by sytse »

perlgeek wrote: post #111
tzs wrote: post #106

Are there any major public repository hosting services that provide good organizational tools for multiple repositories? GitHub, as far as I have been able to determine, only supports a flat list sorted by last update. This is annoying when a developer has a lot of repositories. I'll come across something useful in one of my areas of interest from a given developer, and then want to look at their other repositories t…

Gitlab at least has groups of repositories, which provide some amount of namespacing. No idea if it supports nesting.

GitLab B.V. CEO here, GitLab indeed supports groups. This enables the folder structure you seek where you can find repo's that belong to the same functional group.
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