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I'm Leaving Mojang

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Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by [deleted] »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #88
jacquesm wrote: post #17

> I don’t see myself as a real game developer. I make games because it’s fun, and because I love games and I love to program, but I don’t make games with the intention of them becoming huge hits, and I don’t try to change the world. I think that's the essence of being a real game developer. It's sad that Notch feels this way, I think the majority of old school games guys and girls were just like that. Since it's beco…

> I think that's the essence of being a real game developer. I think that's the eseence of being a real X, X = insert whatever you claim to be in. In my mind I divide companies (and professionals) by whether their occupation is an instrumental or terminal goal. As an example, advancing rocketry and electrifying transport to advance humanity is a terminal goal for Elon Musk. I.e he cares about that and works on Tesla…

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Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

chernevik wrote: post #39

This is why we can't have nice things. I don't know much about Minecraft or whatever issue Notch is referring to in his post. But I'm always struck by how quickly people snap to emotional argument and response, without thinking about the other side of the question, without thinking about how their response will be read or felt by others. The first step in any dialogue is trying to understand why the other side has sa…

I've been involved in the Minecraft community for a long while, but mostly from the sidelines as an observer. it's a nasty community full of more bitter and hateful people than any other community I've ever seen. It doesn't help that many of them are children. I don't blame Notch for wanting out.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by talmand »

sergiotapia wrote: post #78

"It's not about the money (BECAUSE I HAVE TWO BILLION OF THEM!)." Haha, and who can blame Notch, I wouldn't work a day in my life and become a full time carpenter for the rest of my life.

Reminds me of the scene in The Aviator where the Hepburn family obviously can care less about money to the point of obnoxiousness, and state they don't discuss it.

Hughes responds with "That's because you have it."

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by _delirium »

gadders wrote: post #105
bilalhusain wrote: post #8

Heartbreaking to read what we do to people.

Well, there are a lot of dicks online, but I think twitter rage-storms or whatever seem to affect some people a lot more deeply than others.

The people who deal with it best I think are sort of the aloof types. They may not even read their own Twitter feed, delegating it to a social-media staffer. Notch has the problem that he uses it as a personal account and is on it regularly, so he reads comments @directed at him, tries to reply to them, etc. He also has a public email address that he reads, and it sounds like people send weird/angry emails to that, too, so it ends up going beyond just Twitter. I could see getting annoyed if people were constantly emailing me in that manner.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

#135

Post by jedmeyers »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #129
raldi wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then the fisherman got a horrible toothache and there was nothing he could do about it. A few years later, overfishing led to near-depletion of the local supply, and new restrictions were implemented on fishing licenses. The fisherman was unable to afford one, and yet he had no other means of supporting his family. By the end of the decade his wife and children were begging on the street. Meanwhile, the businessm…

The point being, we who are like the businessman are the slaves of our economy. We get great perks from that Moloch, like healthcare, million types of foods, computers, cinemas, all the awesome technology - but in exchange, we need to slave away our lives. It's a trade-off. We're entering the times when we can build machines to relieve us from our chains, but (apart from needing to restructure the capitalist economy)…

Since the beginning of humanity people have been slaves to the necessity of survival.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by TeMPOraL »

jedmeyers wrote: post #135
TeMPOraL wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point being, we who are like the businessman are the slaves of our economy. We get great perks from that Moloch, like healthcare, million types of foods, computers, cinemas, all the awesome technology - but in exchange, we need to slave away our lives. It's a trade-off. We're entering the times when we can build machines to relieve us from our chains, but (apart from needing to restructure the capitalist economy)…

Since the beginning of humanity people have been slaves to the necessity of survival.

Yes, but for the first time ever, we've reached the theoretical capacity to change that.

What's funny (for some definitions of fun), we will actually need to do that - given how our current economy pushes automation to replace humans everywhere, we can either accept that people should be allowed to live and thrive without having to earn for the living, or we'll see a massive increase of poverty.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by moggflunkies »

technofiend wrote: post #126
raldi wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then the fisherman got a horrible toothache and there was nothing he could do about it. A few years later, overfishing led to near-depletion of the local supply, and new restrictions were implemented on fishing licenses. The fisherman was unable to afford one, and yet he had no other means of supporting his family. By the end of the decade his wife and children were begging on the street. Meanwhile, the businessm…

Hah. Funny, but Brazil has socialized medicine.

lol! So in the end the fisherman got a horrible toothache and there was nothing he could do about it.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by GFK_of_xmaspast »

jere wrote: post #5

>As soon as this deal is finalized, I will leave Mojang and go back to doing Ludum Dares and small web experiments. It has always amazed me how down to earth Notch is. Now, he's going to be a billionaire doing little game jams. It's hard to believe and quite awesome. It's like Bruce Wayne deciding to spend the rest of his life playing with legos.

"It's like Bruce Wayne deciding to spend the rest of his life playing with legos."

Better than dressing up in a gimp suit, and liable to get fewer people killed.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by rmrfrmrf »

serve_yay wrote: post #107
chernevik wrote: post #39

This is why we can't have nice things. I don't know much about Minecraft or whatever issue Notch is referring to in his post. But I'm always struck by how quickly people snap to emotional argument and response, without thinking about the other side of the question, without thinking about how their response will be read or felt by others. The first step in any dialogue is trying to understand why the other side has sa…

> I don't know much about Minecraft or whatever issue Notch is referring to in his post. But I'm always struck by how quickly people snap to emotional argument and response Wow!

lol it's almost beautiful, in a way.
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