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Re: We have the potential to solve the biggest problems of today

#131
I wanted to tear this article to pieces simply because of the title. But I can't. All of these points seem valid and well targeted. There seems to be a rejection of any negativity here on HN but that really is not doing anyone any justice. Let's be tough on each other. If it's crap call it crap and take it on the chin if you are the creator of said crap. For every "that a boy" we give a weak attempt we diminish those that truly strive for excellence and push us forward.

In fairness to the guys at Yo though, 1.2M is really not that much money. Enough to get a few guys going and keep the lights on to see where it goes. So let's see it play out.

Re: We have the potential to solve the biggest problems of today

#132
post #79

There's a lot that I dislike about this article, but I'll start with this: it is probably self-refuting. Someone could just have easily written: "I find it difficult to see individuals who could focus their time and effort solving [problems like energy, food, water, health, education], instead put their efforts into something like a takedown of the moral priorities of the people behind Yo on a their personal blog." A…

>> And, by the way, who appointed Christoph McCann arbiter of what it good and valuable in this world? This is such an important point, and why free markets work best. If people derive value out of Yo, then terrific. If they don't, it goes away. Don't need a moral crusader to decide what is worthy.

Well, except there's all kinds of economic theories about how this isn't true: the tragedy of the commons, negative externalities. There's also a lot of evidence that rational actor theory isn't as true as pure economics would suggest. And of course market inefficiencies will distort price signals. And truly free markets have a hard time remaining such in face of large incentives for rational actors to instead engage in rent seeking or other anti-competitive behavior.

But yes, if you ignore all the problems both theoretical and practical with free markets, free markets work best.

Re: We have the potential to solve the biggest problems of today

#133
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> And, by the way, who appointed Christoph McCann arbiter of what it good and valuable in this world? This is such an important point, and why free markets work best. If people derive value out of Yo, then terrific. If they don't, it goes away. Don't need a moral crusader to decide what is worthy.

There's also a "market" of ideas and opinions. The OP expressed one. The OP isn't a jack-booted right-thinking enforcer. The OP isn't even a "moral crusader", as you put it. In a free society, it is perfectly reasonable to gently mock people you believe are engaging in stupid and/or pointless pursuits. As the OP did. Of course the people doing the dumb stuff are free to scoff and ignore them. As you are. Anyway, I th…

Of course. However in the marketplace of ideas, it's important that as a society we don't embrace the trappings of a command&control economy. I am merely reacting to the OPs (albeit extremely benign in this case) view that an individual or group of individuals can decide what is OK for others.

Re: We have the potential to solve the biggest problems of today

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post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is such an important point, and why free markets work best. Well, there's a subtlety there. It's not that "free markets work best". It's that the efficient market hypothesis claims that a market with perfect information dissemination consisting of uniformly rational agents will deliver Pareto-optimal resource allocations. There's a lot to disagree with in that sentence; market agents collude, people are demonst…

Having studied with the originators of the efficient market hypothesis (Fama), I regret to inform you that what you describe is not a feature of EMH but is rather frequently attributed to it in an attempt to discredit it. There is nothing that rationally follows EMH that leads to Pareto-optimal outcomes in society. EMH means that well informed markets make sound decisions on the pricing of assets. This means that bas…

You would think that by now the market would have decided upon the proper definition of the efficient market hypothesis.

Re: We have the potential to solve the biggest problems of today

#136

"The problems facing us - energy, food, water, health, education - require big solutions and we are just starting to see some of these solutions come out of a new wave of startup businesses." You can't engineer technological solutions to social problems. You will get so far, but then you'll run into politics and religion.

The time is ripe for theogenesis. Who says you politics and religion can't be startups?

Re: We have the potential to solve the biggest problems of today

#137
post #90

There's a lot that I dislike about this article, but I'll start with this: it is probably self-refuting. Someone could just have easily written: "I find it difficult to see individuals who could focus their time and effort solving [problems like energy, food, water, health, education], instead put their efforts into something like a takedown of the moral priorities of the people behind Yo on a their personal blog." A…

"The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads. That sucks." [0] The reason why this article resonates with many readers is that it expresses frustration with the triviality of how our economy allocates resources to start-ups. The promise of tech is huge, but following the money often leads to optimizing ads, machine learning algorithms competing with each other in HFT, or other appl…

Why is helping people find products and services that will enrich their lives an inherently bad thing?

Re: We have the potential to solve the biggest problems of today

#138

There's a lot that I dislike about this article, but I'll start with this: it is probably self-refuting. Someone could just have easily written: "I find it difficult to see individuals who could focus their time and effort solving [problems like energy, food, water, health, education], instead put their efforts into something like a takedown of the moral priorities of the people behind Yo on a their personal blog." A…

I was unaware that the mere suggestion that we should focus attention on the public good is now "totalitarian". Clearly I need lessons in the new English. That or there is such an aversion to any form of social responsibility that even mention of it is met with massive hyperbole.

I'm sure it must just be the former.

Re: We have the potential to solve the biggest problems of today

#139
I think a lot of people here take offense at the tone of this article (a tad bit condescending and patronizing) and rightly so. However I think people are missing the bigger point of the article which is to serve as a reminder that there are bigger(other?) problems to solve, and it would be prudent to make a case for the other causes the author mentions. Think of it as a pitch to the next generation of entrepreneurs. (Yo knocked its pitch out the park with its million dollar funding and news headlines).

I do not agree with his target audience, since the bigger problems are big because of their difficulty. If they were problems that could be solved with little effort/limited finances they would have been. (energy, food, water, health, education). Apps such as Yo exist because they can obtain funding to the tune of a million dollars. His pitch should be to investors to invest wisely keeping in mind their social responsibility and make a case for the importance of these other big ticket problems as opposed to apps like Yo. It does not make sense to berate engineers/start up founders etc. for their chosen path especially since they do not own the capital required to solve "smaller" (acc. to the author) problem let alone a "big" world changing one. They are almost entirely reliant on working up to their next round of funding.

Re: We have the potential to solve the biggest problems of today

#140
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads. That sucks." [0] The reason why this article resonates with many readers is that it expresses frustration with the triviality of how our economy allocates resources to start-ups. The promise of tech is huge, but following the money often leads to optimizing ads, machine learning algorithms competing with each other in HFT, or other appl…

Ad money is what's paying for all the interesting projects and acquisitions going on at Google right now. If not directly a net benefit to society, it has been one indirectly.

Paraphrasing Peter Thiel [1], this is a stochastic approach ("unplanned statistical view of the future") to technological progress. Throw darts at ad clicks and hope that it cures cancer. The opposite approach is the 'Manhattan Project'-way, where you throw the best minds in a field to work on a particular project. To some extent, this is going on in areas like mathematics (Langlands Project), Human Genome Project, NIH BRAIN Initiative, etc. In the long term, it is unclear if the 'stochastic approach' is deterministically effective in solving the 'Big' problems.

[1] http://www.the-american-interest.com/articles/2012/02/01/a-c...

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