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Re: Firefox 29

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Post by barrkel »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #19
exodust wrote: post #13

What's this about the status bar / add-on bar gone? The main reason why I use Status-4-Evar is because when I hover over a link I don't want that link to pop-over the page content, which is what Chrome did first, then Firefox copied like sheep. It's distracting, like a tiny little pop-over in the corner of your eye. I like having URLs show in a status bar separate to the main web window. It's out of the way, and I ju…

They're cutting down on unnecessary chrome. I can't say I have a problem with it; less chrome means more room for page content. A bit like why Apple added fullscreen apps.

I run Firefox with a lot of plugins. I rely on the status bar (add-on bar) to keep many of the plugin notification / configuration buttons out of my toolbar.

From my perspective, Firefox is working hard to drive me away, by removing its distinguishing features that make it different from Chrome.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by chris_wot »

espadrine wrote: post #122
andreis1 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrt the 'omnibox vs address-and-search' conundrum: why not just let the user decide in Settings, defaulting on omnibox?

The user can decide. You can remove the search bar in the customization interface. But the default has to be to show the search bar because of contracts they have with search partners, I believe.

No, it was always to separate search from addresses, lest search-ahead leak your data.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by abus »

INTPenis wrote: post #37

Am I the only one who's not comfortable with the fact that the "whatsnew"[1] page can activate my browsers menu with Javascript? [1] https://www.mozilla.org/sv-SE/firefox/29.0/whatsnew/?oldvers...

about:config

    browser.uitour.enabled
to disable it.

Re: Firefox 29

#134

Post by epochwolf »

danford wrote: post #116
epochwolf wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're being downvoted because you are incorrect. Ubuntu GNOME does not have an equivalent of OS X full screen build in to the windowing system. It has a maximize button that doesn't remove the chrome, it just makes the window take up the most of the screen. In OS X, there is no window. The app is completely edge to edge similar like an iOS app except without the status bar. Edit: Ubuntu "Fullscreen": http://1.bp.blo…

But that's not full screen though. That's maximize, you are incorrect. http://i.imgur.com/lO0g7oS.gif

Interesting. I've never seen this before and the only references I've been able to find on it in a quick search was a compiz setting in 12.04.

Is this built in to the stock ubuntu releases? If so, what version?

Re: Firefox 29

#135

Post by cjhopman »

nnnnni wrote: post #118
cookiecaper wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I encourage Chrome users to go check the search history attached to their Google account. It exposes a lot of data that you didn't realize you were sending to Google (including letter-by-letter entry of search terms/urls) and may give a newfound respect for Firefox's separation, whether you personally care enough to make the switch or not.

I only use Chromium because it's supposed to not have the phone-home "features" that are in Chrome. ...or at least it's that they claim. EDIT: "they" being Google. http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/google-chrome-chromium-and-...

Who's "they"?

http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/google-chrome-chromium-and-...

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by maxerickson »

potch wrote: post #28
Narretz wrote: post #6

the only question: will tree style tabs work as before?

Yes, we made extra sure this add-on got updated. Lots of TST users at Mozilla :)

Do I have to install an add on to get narrow tabs?

This is like the 3rd or 4th time that minimum tab width settings have been changed. I understand the motivation to change the experience for the typical user. I don't understand the constant churn in what is customizable. If I customized the location of the reload/stop button last time it was moved, is the thought really that I won't want to this time?

I guess there is some argument about the amount of code that needs to be maintained, but if things go the way they go, there will be incremental changes for a year or 2 now, and then a big jarring shift to the new thing that is more fashionable.

Re: Firefox 29

#137

Post by pjmlp »

danford wrote: post #92
pjmlp wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- The whole resources view - JavaScript profiling (heap, cpu, events) - DOM events monitoring and breakpoints. - JavaScript code completion

> - The whole resources view I'm not sure what the exact criticism is here. > - JavaScript profiling (heap, cpu, events) is this what you mean? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Profiler > - DOM events monitoring and breakpoints. You can do this now (at least in nightly) > - JavaScript code completion Works in the JS console.

> > - The whole resources view

> I'm not sure what the exact criticism is here.

How can I see the whole data available to the browser in FF, similar to ChromeDev Tools

https://developers.google.com/chrome-developer-tools/docs/re...

> - DOM events monitoring and breakpoints.

> You can do this now (at least in nightly)

Cannot install nightly versions on customers. Good to know it is coming, though.

> > - JavaScript code completion

> Works in the JS console.

But not yet on the Scratchpad, unless I am missing something.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by denzil_correa »

The birth year (while signing up for Sync) is a neat feature. It doesn't ask your exact date of birth but only the year. Further, it doesn't ask for your DOB if you are born 1990 or earlier.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by barrkel »

WizzleKake wrote: post #26

The incessant rearrangement of the UI is why I switched to Chrome. Each time they change the interface, it is unclear to me what the benefit is to the user. I was fine with Firefox when it looked like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mozilla_Firefox_3.5.png

My Firefox still looks pretty much identical to that (except I use tree-style tabs, I hide the bookmarks toolbar, and I have more extensions installed that add more buttons to toolbar and status bar).

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by gulbrandr »

INTPenis wrote: post #37

Am I the only one who's not comfortable with the fact that the "whatsnew"[1] page can activate my browsers menu with Javascript? [1] https://www.mozilla.org/sv-SE/firefox/29.0/whatsnew/?oldvers...

The JavaScript code for it is in https://mozorg.cdn.mozilla.net/media/js/firefox_tour_whatsne...

It uses the following command to open the menu:

  document.dispatchEvent(new CustomEvent("mozUITour", {bubbles: true, detail: {action: "showMenu", data: {name: "appMenu"} }}))
I found the source code here : https://github.com/Unfocused/mozilla-uitour/blob/master/src/...

This code http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/module... seems to handle to JavaScript event dispatches.

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