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The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by chc »

zak_mc_kracken wrote: post #126
chc wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overkill never hurt anybody. Would you really want to ditch the SSD even if no other numbers changed at all? Even if you don't need it, I don't see why it's a bad thing.

It's just overkill to me to pay $20 a month for this when I expect a non-SSD plan would be half as cheap, if not more.

You can go with Digital Ocean or one of the other providers in the $5/mo range if price is your real concern here. That's what they're there for. No need to go through the indirection of talking about SSDs.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by mwcampbell »

Karunamon wrote: post #120
mwcampbell wrote: post #54

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Containers, e.g. through Docker, are good for that kind of thing.

Not with the tiny amounts of memory offered at that price. 2GB is very easy to burn through in short order. Anything less than 8 feels really claustrophobic. I've always needed memory more than disk. Really wish I could pay some of these providers just for a one off increase of a few extra gigs of memory without tiering up which includes an entirely higher level of storage that I will not ever use.

Huh? Containers are quite lightweight; you can run several of them in 2 GB of RAM.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by chacham15 »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #106
growt wrote: post #76

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Here is my $5 digitalocean slice (created a few months ago): # dd bs=1M count=1024 if=/dev/zero of=test conv=fdatasync 1024+0 records in 1024+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 3.7375 s, 287 MB/s # hdparm -tT /dev/disk/by-label/DOROOT /dev/disk/by-label/DOROOT: Timing cached reads: 16394 MB in 2.00 seconds = 8205.62 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 868 MB in 3.00 seconds = 289.17 MB/sec

287 MB/s vs 816 MB/s is huge. Linode is really doing a good job here. I have 4 VMs with them and am very happy. Can't wait to make this move.

Parallelizability isnt always possible, but you should normalize the speed you get per dollar.

    287 MB/sec / $5  ~ 57 MB/sec/dollar 
    816 MB/sec / $20 ~ 40 MB/sec/dollar

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

#134

Post by X-Istence »

nhaehnle wrote: post #115
ckozlowski wrote: post #62

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Makes a lot of sense. If your hosts have, say, dual 4-way CPUs, and you're giving your VMs 8 vCPUs, then a single VM can execute per clock cycle since a VM needs all of it's vCPUs made available to the guest OS. With 8 VMs, that means one VM is executing every 8th clock cycle. If you "downgrade" those VMs to 2 vCPUs, then 4 VMs can execute per clock cycle, and that VM can now execute every other clock cycle instead o…

If your hosts have, say, dual 4-way CPUs, and you're giving your VMs 8 vCPUs, then a single VM can execute per clock cycle since a VM needs all of it's vCPUs made available to the guest OS. This seems wrong to me. We're talking about virtualization; technologically, it is absolutely feasibly to have only one physical CPU running a VM even if the VM sees multiple virtual CPUs. And it seems like having this capability…

Sure, and if that one single CPU is emulating 8 vCPU's you haven't gained anything...

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by beachstartup »

thisishugo wrote: post #65
mcone wrote: post #34

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One reason Linode doesn't offer "tiny boxes" is that they, like other companies, are worried about running out of IPv4 addresses.

I doubt that's true. More likely it's because lower tier users are almost always disproportionally more demanding of help than higher tier ones. If you're going to make, for example, $1,000/m you're better off getting it from two competent, $500/m customers that don't need much help, rather than 100 $10/m customers who all need their hands held constantly. In Linode's case fewer users also makes contention less of an…

> I doubt that's true. More likely it's because lower tier users are almost always disproportionally more demanding of help than higher tier ones.

it's called "skin in the game", and those with very little skin in the game do not truly give a shit about their own problems, so they expect others to give a shit for them.

every business learns this lesson at some point. basically all these cheap hosting providers are trying to make money by automating the problem away - we'll see how it works in the long run for hosting. the jury is still out if you ask me.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by pavanky »

dugmartin wrote: post #125
pavanky wrote: post #119

I wish Linode (or anyone else other than Amazon) provides a reasonable Plan[1] with GPUs on them. [1]: Amazon charges $2 an hour thats about $1500 a month.

Here is a list with five other companies: http://www.nvidia.com/object/gpu-cloud-computing-services.ht...

Thanks for pointing it out. I should have known better considering that I am in the space :(

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by thenomad »

dugmartin wrote: post #125
pavanky wrote: post #119

I wish Linode (or anyone else other than Amazon) provides a reasonable Plan[1] with GPUs on them. [1]: Amazon charges $2 an hour thats about $1500 a month.

Here is a list with five other companies: http://www.nvidia.com/object/gpu-cloud-computing-services.ht...

Interesting - thanks! Are any of those plans more reasonably priced than Amazon's?

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by shiloa »

I have mixed feelings about this. We're in the process of moving from Linode to Rackspace but haven't flicked the switch just yet - was planning to this weekend.

Our Linode server (16 GB plan) has been performing terrible lately wrt I/O (compared to, say, a Macbook Pro running the same computations), and we decided we've had enough. I guess we'll have to compare the two after the upgrade and decide.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by mitchwainer »

vidyesh wrote: post #104
giulianob wrote: post #9

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I need 2gb - 4gb servers and DO's quality has decreased since they've grown so much.

Quality decreased? How? Please elaborate.

I would love to hear why as well! Our quality and stability have significantly improved over the last year and as a co-founder of DO, I would like to understand what specific issues you faced. Feel free to shoot me an email directly (mitch@digitalocean.com) to take this conversation offline.
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