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Amazon EC2 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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Re: Amazon EC2 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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We are in the middle of deracking and throwing out (no kidding) some 3+ year old machines at my work. Care to take a guess at what a 3+ year old machine's specs are? Cause I know you don't have a chance at getting it right.

Dell C1100 1U (almost 4 years old) 2x 6core with HT, 24 active threads 144 GB RAM 10x 300 15k SAS

I think there are very few use cases where Amazon makes sense. Their VMs are very expensive, and under powered for what you pay.

Re: Amazon EC2 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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I just reserved a series of heavy-utilization m3.xlarge instances for roughly $30k. Apparently, if I had waited a month, I could have saved about $13k because of these price reductions. I can't help but feel that I got really fucked by poor timing that I couldn't control. It would hurt so much less if these price changes were more gradual and somewhat consistent (perhaps monthly).

It's worth calling and talking to your sales rep about this. I've found AWS to be surprisingly accommodating with pricing.

They want your business for the long term, not just to turn a quick buck.

Re: Amazon EC2 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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We are in the middle of deracking and throwing out (no kidding) some 3+ year old machines at my work. Care to take a guess at what a 3+ year old machine's specs are? Cause I know you don't have a chance at getting it right. Dell C1100 1U (almost 4 years old) 2x 6core with HT, 24 active threads 144 GB RAM 10x 300 15k SAS I think there are very few use cases where Amazon makes sense. Their VMs are very expensive, and u…

Well, I always see it this way: With Amazon you never pay for the actual hardware, because that would be a rip-off. You pay for the service of not having to "throw out old machines", you pay for being able to start a machine with one click, you pay for the services around (S3, Dynamo, ELB, Route 53 etc.) and ultimately, you pay for not having to care about 80% of infrastructure problems.

Re: Amazon EC2 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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We are in the middle of deracking and throwing out (no kidding) some 3+ year old machines at my work. Care to take a guess at what a 3+ year old machine's specs are? Cause I know you don't have a chance at getting it right. Dell C1100 1U (almost 4 years old) 2x 6core with HT, 24 active threads 144 GB RAM 10x 300 15k SAS I think there are very few use cases where Amazon makes sense. Their VMs are very expensive, and u…

And yet, very rational people, with full understanding of the costs of both environments, and pretty detailed spreadsheets (I've spoken with them) continue to buy into PaaS/IaaS offerings aggressively.

For the most part, it's because the cost of hardware isn't the only factor, but the flexibility, ability to rapidly scale (and descale), and, most importantly, the fact that Amazon takes care of all the dirty network engineering/system administration work required to keep the plumbing working.

But, hey, that's the great thing about the free market - every company/individual gets to make the choices that are most advantageous for themselves. I wouldn't be surprised that in regions where network engineers/sysadmins make less than $125-$150K/year, and there isn't a need to turn up a dozen servers overnight, (and, turn them off the night after that) - that AWS/Azure/GCS isn't attractive. But, clearly, for others, it is.

Re: Amazon EC2 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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When it comes to companies like Google and Amazon, I don't think that's a worry.

I'd actually be worried with Google. They've demonstrated a willingness to shut down revenue sinks even if it costs them good will. If these companies find themselves in a position that they're subsidizing their cloud computing offerings with profits made elsewhere, it might make more sense just to pull the plug.

Providing cloud computing services is bulk business where the economies of scale is important Google is itself cloud computing company. When they sell resources to others, it's way to become bigger and reduce cost margins for the platform they are using for themselves.

As long as there are people who pay more for the Google cloud service than Google's own usage is worth, selling to others reduces the overall costs of computing for Google.

Re: Amazon EC2 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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It's interesting how all of the focus of this discussion is Google, Amazon, and Heroku. Why hasn't RedHat's OpenShift gained more mindshare? It's not a bad platform, although I've found their support leaves something to be desired. It's also priced very competitively for small apps (you get 3 nodes free).

Re: Amazon EC2 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

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Let's just hope they all stay in business so we don't end up with only one player in the market...who can then jack up prices at will.

Welcome to Amazon's long-term business model.

In some respects it's Google's model too. They gave away Google Apps free to small businesses for years as they pursued Microsoft's Exchange Server market. At first Google Apps was free for up to 100 users, then 50, then 10. Now they charge $5 per user per month for new plans. Legacy pricing is grandfathered so they didn't really piss anybody off in the process, but it seems pretty clear the strategy was to subsidize the product and accumulate market share.

Re: Amazon EC2 Pricing Changes Effective April 1, 2014

#139

Any time something is announced for April 1, I always have to take a minute to figure out if it's a joke or not. If I wanted to make a change for my company beginning in April, I think I would announce the planned date as April 2nd just to avoid any confusion.

Yeah, I have the exact same thing. I actually hate April 1st for this exact reason. I try to stay off all forums even, just to avoid confusion.
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