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Re: Inside DuckDuckGo, Google's Tiniest, Fiercest Competitor

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Google's interface seems to have improved recently, now that they have removed the duplicate left-hand column and put the options on top. As for search results: I tried DDG again last week, and was shocked by the poor quality of results compared to google, bing or yandex. Search for "html table tag" and you'll see no w3schools or MDN results. Instead a lot of other, crappier sites. Google, yandex and bing all show w3…

I wouldn't consider w3schools a good search result, ever: http://www.w3fools.com/

Why do you say that? (and please don't say you read it on w3fools)

In my own experience, w3schools is the quickest way of getting the information I want, which I guess is why it is at the top of google. I know it isn't cool to like w3schools, but then I'm not a cool programmer.

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The results seem perfectly usable to me, sorry your favorite sites are not top ranking[0]. Care to explain why you think DDG is explicitly filtering them? [0] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+%22html+table+tag%22

It's not that they're not top ranking - they don't appear anywhere in the first few hundred results. DDG must be filtering them because those sites are at the top of yandex and DDG says it is getting the results from yandex. As for "perfectly usable", mountaindragon (result 2) and codesinhtml.com (result 3) are atrocious. And makemyownwebpage.com (result 10 or so) looks like a homepage from the 90s. I think the issue…

Please explain this theory of filtering results out some more.

Re: Inside DuckDuckGo, Google's Tiniest, Fiercest Competitor

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I've been a happy DDG user for about 3 years now. I initially started not because of privacy, but because I think the home page and search results are much cleaner and more minimalist. And I've told myself that if Google ever produces a search result that I couldn't find just as easily with DuckDuckGo then I will switch back. So far that hasn't happened. Now I use DuckDuckGo as my home page and it's my only search en…

Not to mention there's a dark mode. My eyes thank them for that piece of CSS.

Re: Inside DuckDuckGo, Google's Tiniest, Fiercest Competitor

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DDG gives me freedom to better craft my queries, and it's won my browser's default search engine for years because of the bang syntax. I can !anything and it almost always gets me what I need. I still !g and !b quite a bit, but I do so deliberately based on what I'm looking for (and I do think about whether I want the search affecting my Google Now results).

Re: Inside DuckDuckGo, Google's Tiniest, Fiercest Competitor

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I applaud the DDG spirit but without their own crawling data their future is doomed. If their data sources ever cut them off, it's over. They need to build their own crawlers like gigablast.

>They need to build their own crawlers like gigablast.

Unfortunately the opportunity for that is pretty meek. Many webmasters block crawlers that aren't the top search engines. :-(

Re: Inside DuckDuckGo, Google's Tiniest, Fiercest Competitor

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Duck duck is barely usable On the contrary, I find Google barely usable these days, with everything covered in layers and layers of horrible bloat, random UX mess of the week and constant pestering about G+. DDG is nice and clean, has features Google is (still) lacking and just gets me the results. I may resort to other search-engines (like Google) once a week or so, but at this point, there's no way I'm going back t…

Google's interface seems to have improved recently, now that they have removed the duplicate left-hand column and put the options on top. As for search results: I tried DDG again last week, and was shocked by the poor quality of results compared to google, bing or yandex. Search for "html table tag" and you'll see no w3schools or MDN results. Instead a lot of other, crappier sites. Google, yandex and bing all show w3…

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Re: Inside DuckDuckGo, Google's Tiniest, Fiercest Competitor

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Duck duck is barely usable ... but they don't spy on you. The !g and !b commands make it my first choice. If the results aren't getting what you want, try the search on google or bing. IF you don't mind Sergy Brin or Bill Gates tracking you. I still think there's room for a search engine that supports boolean(ish?) operations like AND, OR , NOT and NEAR. Providing links directly to the source and not a redirect to th…

Duck duck is barely usable On the contrary, I find Google barely usable these days, with everything covered in layers and layers of horrible bloat, random UX mess of the week and constant pestering about G+. DDG is nice and clean, has features Google is (still) lacking and just gets me the results. I may resort to other search-engines (like Google) once a week or so, but at this point, there's no way I'm going back t…

Im not sure where all of these cluttered Google search UI comments are coming from, this is what I see. Maybe a reality distortion field due to pent up HN Google hate? Just a few icons in the top right off screen with my profile pic and configuration wheel icon you can't see.

Things look fine.

http://i.imgur.com/J9AqaQK.png

Re: Inside DuckDuckGo, Google's Tiniest, Fiercest Competitor

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post #137

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Google's interface seems to have improved recently, now that they have removed the duplicate left-hand column and put the options on top. As for search results: I tried DDG again last week, and was shocked by the poor quality of results compared to google, bing or yandex. Search for "html table tag" and you'll see no w3schools or MDN results. Instead a lot of other, crappier sites. Google, yandex and bing all show w3…

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What do you mean? The person you're replying to talked about MDN, which is the Mozilla Developer Network you linked to.

Re: Inside DuckDuckGo, Google's Tiniest, Fiercest Competitor

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I try to switch to ddg roughly every 6 months. I usually switch back within the hour. One example I can remember: I was working on some linux V4L2 code and wanted to get more informations on the "buf_queue". By mistake I searched for "vbuf_queue". Google's results: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=vbuf_queue It only shows 3 results where I am (and 0 a few months ago when the problem occured) which makes it prett…

"Mr. Babage if I were to feed wrong inputs to that calculation machine will it still produce correct outputs?"

The better part of this quote is the sentiment that follows;

I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.

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