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Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by alagappanr »

jrs99 wrote: post #22
JAFTEM wrote: post #4

I don't think Adobe has actually cared too much whether or not individual customers pirate their software. From what I've heard, piracy has actually helped the popularity of their products so that more companies and schools, who account for the bulk of their revenue, will buy their products en masse.

it would suck for them if all students started using GIMP, get hired and ask their boss: Can I use GIMP for this? It's absolutely free. Then you start seeing job postings looking for "GIMP experience required."

However the fact that large companies are usually averse anything new would make that difficult.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by hartator »

csmithuk wrote: post #112
ubojan wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but you could buy software once and use it for several years, skipping a few versions before upgrade. There are lots of users that don't need latest bells and whistles.

This. I used Fireworks MX (released 2002) until 2 years ago

Yeaaah, I am not the only one. It was the good old time! Each new version after the MX was a deception, damn Adobe.

You switch to what?

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by znowi »

spodek wrote: post #9

> Me: So you’re telling me I should download an illegal copy of your software, and use my legal serial with it? > Support: Yes Sir, that will work. Seems to me if they tell you you can do something with their product, you aren't pirating. You're following their instructions, though I'm no lawyer.

It is the license that gives you the right to use the software. How you acquire the software is of little importance, as long as you have (and paid for) the license.

It works for Windows as well. It is perfectly legal to use an "illegal" DVD to install the OS, given you have an appropriate license.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by StavrosK »

w1ntermute wrote: post #99
cschmidt wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Scott" Venkatasubramanian

I actually see native speakers make the "should of" mistake far more often than I see non-native speakers make it, probably because it's a mistake based on pronunciation. Native speakers often incorrectly spell based on pronunciation, while non-native speakers often incorrectly pronounce based on spelling. In fact, the (presumably native-speaking) author of the linked blog post makes such a mistake - he uses the word…

100% correct. Also, non-native speakers tend to make grammar errors, use idioms wrongly, etc. They (we) don't tend to mistake "to/too", "there/their/they're" and "your/you're", because second languages are usually acquired through the written word.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by userbinator »

hhm wrote: post #20
venomsnake wrote: post #2

Downloading software is not piracy. Using it is. After all you are entitled to personal backup of your install media. The fact that the backup is distributed and cloud based is irrelevant.

There is another reason why downloading software from "somewhere else" is less than ideal in a case like this. The reason is that the pirated download might not be the original software as provided by the developer; there is no guarantee that it doesn't have, for example, some virus in it.

There's no guarantee the original software doesn't either...

And if it's precracked/modded/etc. then it's definitely not the original, but those who are downloading those would consider the modifications to be value-added.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by Gracana »

PinguTS wrote: post #21

The problem is just: "You have old software, which was distributed on CD/DVD and have no drive anymore." The solution: get a drive or use another Mac's drive via Remote DVD. The problem is not only with Adobe, but with others too. Like there is no MS Office download, AFAIK. Yes, Adobe has a ridiculous pricing policy, especially if you live outside the US (yeah, translating from English to English is expansive, UK ver…

Apparently CS5 used to be something you could purchase for download, so that was an option, but is no longer.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by jrockway »

znowi wrote: post #133
spodek wrote: post #9

> Me: So you’re telling me I should download an illegal copy of your software, and use my legal serial with it? > Support: Yes Sir, that will work. Seems to me if they tell you you can do something with their product, you aren't pirating. You're following their instructions, though I'm no lawyer.

It is the license that gives you the right to use the software. How you acquire the software is of little importance, as long as you have (and paid for) the license. It works for Windows as well. It is perfectly legal to use an "illegal" DVD to install the OS, given you have an appropriate license.

Well, the theory is that you need a license to make a copy of the software when it loads from disk into memory. Depending on your outlook, that could be fair use, and the license is optional. The license removes all ambiguity -- if you agree to these terms, then we won't come after you for making a copy of the software.

In the US, courts have gone both ways.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by te_chris »

vacri wrote: post #102
te_chris wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Installing office is kids stuff, all 9 DVDs of native instrument's komplete 9 (not even the ultimate version which has like another 100 gigs of samples included) took 2 days using another laptop's drive over wifi.

A cat5 cable really isn't that expensive. I don't understand the distaste people have regarding wired networking. In my office, I have several people who complain about the wifi having congestion. In the heart of the CBD, with tons of other networks visible. "That network cable on your desk, which I put there for you to use, plug it in and this problem goes away". They plug it in, comment on how quick and clean their…

No distaste of wired networking, just didn't have the possibility of running a cable between both machines due to location in the house.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by te_chris »

JWLong wrote: post #55
te_chris wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Installing office is kids stuff, all 9 DVDs of native instrument's komplete 9 (not even the ultimate version which has like another 100 gigs of samples included) took 2 days using another laptop's drive over wifi.

Oh, God... Native... just. no. They make some awesome hardware, but their attempts at DRM made me never want to risk my hard earned cash on them again.

I've never run into any issues with their DRM, but I guess I haven't pushed it that far. What happened for you? I bought K9 in the sale, $350 NZD which to me is ridiculous value for what you get. I'm super happy either way.
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