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Re: Thirty Years of Mac [video]

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Post by mortenjorck »

pavlov wrote: post #43
danabramov wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is true for creative industries (which the video is all about). Most design studios, musicians, 3D artists, etc, use Macs.

Certainly not true for graphics, 3D and video. Windows is the majority platform for apps like Photoshop, Maya, Premiere, Avid Media Composer... (The illusion that all designers are on Mac is probably because HNers don't often meet the ordinary designers who have a boring corporate job or are struggling freelancers somewhere far away from San Francisco.)

  The illusion that all designers are on Mac is probably 
  because HNers don't often meet the ordinary designers who 
  have a boring corporate job or are struggling freelancers 
  somewhere far away from San Francisco.
Out here in the midwest, every design freelancer I've known has had a Mac, without exception. Every small-biz graphic design studio or ad agency I've come into contact with has been a Mac shop.

3D artists, however, have been just as consistently Windows-based. I've never met a single one of them with a Mac.

Re: Thirty Years of Mac [video]

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Post by josefresco »

scelerat wrote: post #118
josefresco wrote: post #80

More 30 like years of personal computing...just dub "Mac" for "PC" and it's wouldn't be inaccurate except for the smiley faces. Just because these artists and engineers are talking about a Mac does not make their functions exclusive to the platform. Also, going back 30 years you have to endure some turd-Macs along the way (some brilliant ones too). Many jokes were had at the expense of our Mac brothers in the late mi…

> switch to Intel changed that The turnaround started with Mac OS X, in 2001. That's what really started turning heads. The intel macs five years later helped, but it really was the wow factor of having a great Mac- or Mac-like (considering Aqua was the most radical departure Apple had made from the System 6/7/8/9 UI lineage up until that point) interface on top of real Unix, with all of its tools. It put to bed all…

I'm referring hardware/performance parity among the platforms. I sat through too many Apple events where they marched out some obscure crazy benchmark proving their (IBM) crappy CPUs were 1 million times more powerful than Intel's. Fast forward a few years and surprise! Apple moved to Intel because of their "superior roadmap" Notice how that implies that moving forward Intel is the performance winner but historically was not.

For fun read this, 2 yeas before the switch to Intel: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/06/23Apple-and-IBM-Intr...

Re: Thirty Years of Mac [video]

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Post by DerekL »

hackmiester wrote: post #114

Hey! Those floppy icons are from Mini vMac! This could be seen as Apple condoning the emulation of their products and software... https://www.apple.com/v/30-years/a/images/1989/closeup.jpg

And that picture is “Road to Point Reyes”, created in 1983 by the Lucasfilm division that eventually became Pixar. http://alvyray.com/Art/PtReyes.htm

Re: Thirty Years of Mac [video]

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Post by mortenjorck »

simonh wrote: post #126
taliesinb wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was responsible for the Amiga ultimately failing, if it was superior in all those ways?

The Amiga OS was very advanced in some ways, but extremely primitive in others. It was basically a hyper-advanced games console with a keyboard. The UI was minimally functional, limited to non-existent support for printers or peripherals, etc. It just wasn't intended to be used as anything other than a games machine and provided none of the features a business machine would need. I speak as a very proud owner of an A…

The desktop GUI system (Workbench) was more Xerox than Macintosh, and stayed stuck in 1982 for a long time. But the Amiga was far more than just a games machine: Its multimedia capabilities were so far in advance of anything else for a decade that it became to music and video what the Mac was to design and publishing.

The best example of this would be the Video Toaster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Toaster For much of the 1990s, it was the king of real-time broadcast video production, unsurpassed until the advent of hardware-accelerated PC graphics late in the decade.

Re: Thirty Years of Mac [video]

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Post by wiredfool »

itafroma wrote: post #48

Here's the list of people and things featured: - 1984, original Macintosh - 1985, Jon Appleton, pioneer in electro-acoustical music and key figure in the development of the digital synthesizer - 1986, April Greiman, seminal figure in the New Wave graphic design movement - 1987, Theodore Gray, co-founder of Wolfram Research - 1988, Ahn Sang-soo, pioneer in Korean typography - 1989, John Knoll, co-inventor of Photoshop…

There's a machine featured each year if you scroll down.

Re: Thirty Years of Mac [video]

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Post by kayoone »

sandis wrote: post #87
Void_ wrote: post #38

Art, art, art... Why can't they show programmers in an ad for once? Apple you can come film me at any time.

They've done it twice with their "one app at a time" videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOUfzyAEQHk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGtP6ZQ6Lt8

The thing is, as cheesy and hyperbolic these videos are, i still find them incredibly inspiring. And as an Android user i acknowledge the fact that many of the truly brilliant and well done apps are done for ios. Thats changing, but i am not sure if other platforms will ever be on par with Apple in terms of overall product quality, which is a benefit that comes with limits to the openness of the platform though.

Re: Thirty Years of Mac [video]

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Post by scotth »

tambourine_man wrote: post #83

Beautiful site, nice memories and all, but I find this a bit worrisome. The Mac's 25th anniversary went by rather unremarkably under Steve's management, if I remember correctly. He famously gave the Apple's museum to Stanford as soon as he returned. A company as old (for this industry) and successful as Apple must always look relentlessly to the future in order not to fall too much in love with its own accomplishment…

It's just marketing fluff. Don't worry about it.

Re: Thirty Years of Mac [video]

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Post by usingpond »

josefresco wrote: post #95
aroman wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you missed the point. 30 years from today (January 24th, 1984) is celebrating the release of the original Macintosh, which was the first modern personal computer. Of course there have been "bad Apples" along the way — the Apple computer line sucked during much of the 90's, as you pointed out. But the simple fact is that Apple's original Macintosh was the definitive introduction of modern personal computing to…

It certainly comes off better if you frame it in that way. It's probably my bias which lead me to read too far into some of the quotes used about the Mac bringing new capabilities that didn't exist for the consumer previously. The 1984 machine is/was an amazing thing, but the 90's and even the early 00's Macs were anything but.

You really don't think that the iMac was a crazy influential product? Even by computer nerd standards that we have, a 1024x768 display and USB-only ports were a very bold move that changed a lot. Not to mention the design of the damned thing and it's focus as a PC dedicated to the Internet in terms of a consumer product.

Re: Thirty Years of Mac [video]

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Post by rapind »

aroman wrote: post #94
josefresco wrote: post #80

More 30 like years of personal computing...just dub "Mac" for "PC" and it's wouldn't be inaccurate except for the smiley faces. Just because these artists and engineers are talking about a Mac does not make their functions exclusive to the platform. Also, going back 30 years you have to endure some turd-Macs along the way (some brilliant ones too). Many jokes were had at the expense of our Mac brothers in the late mi…

I think you missed the point. 30 years from today (January 24th, 1984) is celebrating the release of the original Macintosh, which was the first modern personal computer. Of course there have been "bad Apples" along the way — the Apple computer line sucked during much of the 90's, as you pointed out. But the simple fact is that Apple's original Macintosh was the definitive introduction of modern personal computing to…

It is most certainly not a fact that the "Macintosh was the definitive introduction of modern personal computing to the general public."

The Apple ][ was more popular by far than the original Mac, and even so it wasn't the first definitive PC. I remember seeing a lot of Commodore PETs around when I was young... way more than Macintosh.

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