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Firefox 26 is released

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Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by acdha »

lucb1e wrote: post #91
acdha wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think only every 10 versions should be news Numbers aren't intrinsically important – what would be really nice is saving the announcements for specific features of note.

> Numbers aren't intrinsically important True, so yeah I stand corrected about that. Now, can we tell Mozilla this and get off this ridicul^H^H^Hrapid release cycle?

This release cycle is great: it's not quite as fast as Chrome but it means that I can start using features for 90+% of the Firefox-using public within months of release rather than years.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by achairapart »

saidajigumi wrote: post #97
achairapart wrote: post #78

Firefox 25 hanged most of the time, it seems was because of Firebug. I disabled Firebug. Firefox 26 hangs at start up. CPU stuck at 100%. Almost 1 GB of ram used with 1 tab open (I can't even open a new one). What happened, Mozilla? I'm giving up with this browser.

Anecdata: I use FF heavily on a daily basis and haven't seen any of these problems. Issues of this magnitude are "set the internet on fire" problems. If a few web searches don't turn up tons of other users having these problems then it's best to assume there are local issues that need troubleshooting. Some suggestions on that: 1. Have you tried troubleshooting Firefox via Safe Mode? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/…

I didn't want to be so negative but I'm actually frustrated with this. Because:

1. I used to be in love with Firefox. So much.

2. A few web searches turn up tons of other problems [1], maybe mine also. Maybe not.

3. At this point, this is not just a one shot problem to sort out. This is something mining my daily productivity.

[1] https://www.google.com/?q=firefox+hangs&safe=off

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by riquito »

shmerl wrote: post #119
dkhenry wrote: post #116

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If you have the files dropped in /opt just chown them to your primary user. I have been running like that for some time now and there shouldn't be any issues.

I can chown them, but isn't that bad in general? If something breaks out from the browser, it can overwrite the binary with malicious code or whatever. Is it a real concern? Regular Linux packages aren't accessible for writing for the ordniary user offering some security barrier.

If something breaks out and can run as your user you're done for. For example it could put an alias in .bashrc for ssh to evilssh and you would never know it (until it's too late).

Running firefox not as root is a good idea, but keep in mind that if a user run an evil application, that user is utterly compromised.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by techwizrd »

shmerl wrote: post #106

Is there any way to update Firefox on Linux without resorting to ugly methods like running it as root and using update UI, or downloading the mar file manually and running the updater CLI tool with that file (as sudo / root)? The issue is that I use stock Mozilla build (I prefer it to Iceweasel on Debian), so I just placed it in /opt, but I don't want to give write permissions to the firefox directory to my primary u…

On Ubuntu, you can use the Official Mozilla Daily PPA[1] to get the latest versions of Firefox. They have PPAs for each channel and you can then use the normal package manager to update your Firefox.

1: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by ahrjay »

riquito wrote: post #21

> Improved page load times due to no longer decoding images that aren't visible (847223) ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847223 ) This is pretty cool

Hopefully the next step is to take image decoding off the main thread.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by mhurron »

winslow wrote: post #113
bryanlarsen wrote: post #77

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A lot of software is developed via some sort of agile software process these days. This means a new version of the software quite regularly, released on a time basis rather than a feature basis. This is what made version numbers meaningless. There are three common solutions: time based: Ubuntu 12.04 increment the major number: Chrome 31 increment the minor number, never or rarely changing the major numbers: Linux 2.6…

What is your solution then if these don't work well?

Stop putting so much stock in version numbers?

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by mikeratcliffe »

dear wrote: post #108
bad_user wrote: post #60

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First of all, it's hard to tell how much memory a process uses. If you're on Linux or on OS X and you're using "top", there's difficulty in interpreting the results. For example right now my Firefox 26 with about 20 tabs is being reported by "top" as using 2190MB VIRT and ~1030MB RES. VIRT reports the total amount of memory allocated, including memory that's shared between processes, including memory-mapped files, in…

In my case, everytime I open a new tab, the mem usage goes up. But when I close a tab, it does not necessarily go down, or just goes down a little. So the overall trend is it goes up, until it can no longer function (freezed up on my old 4G computer). Then I have to kill and restart it. I use OSX's Activity Monitor to see the mem usage.

Can you try running in Firefox's safe mode and let us know if you have the same issue... sound to me like one of your extensions is leaking.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by vacri »

shmerl wrote: post #128
SkyMarshal wrote: post #127

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Since you're on Debian and are already putting it in /opt, try the Debian Alternatives tool [1], it's great for managing multiple versions of software you don't install from Deb repos. It lets you put multiple versions of the same program in /opt or anywhere else (say, /opt/firefox/25, /opt/firefox/26, etc) and config one of them to be the system version (soft links all the bins and man into /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin,…

That can be useful but it doesn't solve my problem of more automatic updating really. What I need is something close to native pacakge updating - i.e. replace old files with new ones when update is available with minimal hassle.

http://mozilla.debian.net/ is probably what you're after.

Debian uses the 'ESR' versions (long-term support, for enterprises etc) of firefox as it's stock browser, as it's impractical to review the latest and greatest every few weeks for security. The above link gives you the appropriate lines to add to your apt sources.list to get whichever version you like for whichever flavour you're running.

This gives you Iceweasel though, not Firefox, however the only difference is the branding.

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