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Re: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

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Post by paperwork »

pivo wrote: post #129
paperwork wrote: post #63

Since there seem to be some IntelliJ folks here, I'd like to bring up my pet peeve: please take advantage of modern, gigantic _wide_ monitors. It makes no sense for code to be in a single column on the left of the monitor while 2/3 of the right side is almost completely empty space. Instead of just allowing vertical scrolling, why not allow multiple columns and horizontal scrolling? This will result in the ability to…

Please don't do that! Wide lines are my pet peeve! It doesn't make sense to use width just because you can. In fact it's a bad idea because it's much, much harder to read really wide text and code should be written to be read. You don't see (good) web pages, books or magazines with really wide text because it's really hard to read. Also people sometimes work on small screen laptops and there you are constrained by wi…

I think you misunderstood my point. I don't want long lines of text, I want multiple columns of short lines.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

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Post by bjeanes »

pivo wrote: post #129
paperwork wrote: post #63

Since there seem to be some IntelliJ folks here, I'd like to bring up my pet peeve: please take advantage of modern, gigantic _wide_ monitors. It makes no sense for code to be in a single column on the left of the monitor while 2/3 of the right side is almost completely empty space. Instead of just allowing vertical scrolling, why not allow multiple columns and horizontal scrolling? This will result in the ability to…

Please don't do that! Wide lines are my pet peeve! It doesn't make sense to use width just because you can. In fact it's a bad idea because it's much, much harder to read really wide text and code should be written to be read. You don't see (good) web pages, books or magazines with really wide text because it's really hard to read. Also people sometimes work on small screen laptops and there you are constrained by wi…

Multiple columns is not at all the same thing as long lines. See: newspapers.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

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Post by pivo »

paperwork wrote: post #131
pivo wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't do that! Wide lines are my pet peeve! It doesn't make sense to use width just because you can. In fact it's a bad idea because it's much, much harder to read really wide text and code should be written to be read. You don't see (good) web pages, books or magazines with really wide text because it's really hard to read. Also people sometimes work on small screen laptops and there you are constrained by wi…

I think you misunderstood my point. I don't want long lines of text, I want multiple columns of short lines.

Ah, yep I misunderstood. Sorry!

Unfortunately at my company people insist on writing code in 130+ columns, I'm a little over sensitive about it I guess.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

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Post by TylerE »

lexalizer wrote: post #18
suyash wrote: post #8

How much is it? If I had the version 12, that I bought recently, do I need to pay for the new version to upgrade?

From what I understand, starting with V13 personal licenses will include 1 year free upgrades. I thought V12 licenses younger than 1 year will work with V13, but that's not the case. I like the IDE, but I will stick with v12 for now.

1 year of updates not upgrades. Otherwise you'd only "need" to buy an upgrade every other year.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

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Post by andylei »

garblegarble wrote: post #98
josso wrote: post #32

Great update, but still no support for Java 7 only in OS X. :(

You can edit the Info.plist file (you probably already know this!) to get the IDE to launch under JDK 7 in OS X. A recent EAP release actually had a bundled JDK 1.7 for OS X, although it seems the final version's download doesn't have it

this doesn't actually work. editing the plist doesn't do anything on IntelliJ 13 mac.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

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Post by kclay »

rnikander wrote: post #48

Just trying the Scala plugin now. I really want to leave Eclipse. I wonder if it will show me implicit conversions and parameters, and if will handle hairy stuff like macros. And does it use the presentation compiler like ScalaIDE/Eclipse? If not I'll be surprised if can handle macros. So far, so good though. Need to import a bigger project as a test...

I only tried macros with Play! and for the most part it handled the Json.as[T] macros but after a while It would produce a deadlock and start dumping the stack. I got around it by providing some type hints so it wasn't a big of an issue. Hopefully the fixed that.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

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Post by waterw »

So I've never really understood how the products are differentiated from each other. If I bought Intellij IDEA, does that mean I can download free plugins to get the same functionality as PyCharm? Does PyCharm support Javascript? If I want to do Django and Javascript, do I need to buy IDEA?

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

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Post by rnikander »

sluukkonen wrote: post #68
rnikander wrote: post #48

Just trying the Scala plugin now. I really want to leave Eclipse. I wonder if it will show me implicit conversions and parameters, and if will handle hairy stuff like macros. And does it use the presentation compiler like ScalaIDE/Eclipse? If not I'll be surprised if can handle macros. So far, so good though. Need to import a bigger project as a test...

It does highlight implicit conversions by default (they're underlined and have a light blue background colour). I don't think it does anything special w.r.t. macros, but I might be wrong. As far as I know, they use their own compiler for highlighting type errors in the editor etc. and SBT for the "actual" compilation. The presentation compiler didn't exist when they started Scala support, so they rolled their own sol…

My tests so far are encouraging. I'd like to know their intent with Scala. That plugin seemed to go nowhere for years, and ScalaIDE/Eclipse looked like it would be the only option. But ScalaIDE is still pretty buggy. If they are committed to making Scala support as good as their Java stuff, that would be awesome.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

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Post by annasaru »

I had unrealistic expectations of this IDE... Some of the current enhancements are nice (Search anywhere, for example).. The favorite theme they tout (Darcula) is not yet upto Sublime's theme, IMO. Somehow it feels gratuitously helpful-- and I can't accuse it of getting in the way (an easy trap to fall into). When it came to Python, I could not stand Pycharm - which uses the kernel from the java Idea-IDE. (disclosure: when i code Python I use emacs, idle, or Wing Ide). So there is something in its DNA that I end up tolerating - but am not crazy about. edit: I ran away from eclipse - that atrocity, so Idea was a refugee camp.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 13 is Released

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Post by ScottBurson »

paperwork wrote: post #63

Since there seem to be some IntelliJ folks here, I'd like to bring up my pet peeve: please take advantage of modern, gigantic _wide_ monitors. It makes no sense for code to be in a single column on the left of the monitor while 2/3 of the right side is almost completely empty space. Instead of just allowing vertical scrolling, why not allow multiple columns and horizontal scrolling? This will result in the ability to…

This is a major reason I still do my editing in XEmacs even though I use IntelliJ for debugging.

On a 1920-wide screen, using the standard X11 "6x10" font, I can split an XEmacs frame into three 100-column windows horizontally. I also split vertically, for a total of six. Add a second monitor, and I can see a lot of code! For complex tasks involving changes across multiple files, it's a big help.

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