Earlier quoted context omitted.
As the jury, I formally affirm this seems legit.
As taxing authority, please send in 17% by the end of the quarter.
I'll be sure to make the transfer to the account with my name on it.
US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale
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Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale
#132I hereby fine Société Générale 8,000 bitcoins for violating the American constitution (never mind jurisdiction since they don't care for it either), notice duly served by posting this comment in a public forum and witnessed by whoever happens to read this.
That's cute. You need one thing -- someone to enforce that for you.
A court they would listen to, an army, your buddy Louie with a baseball bat, ready to break their CEO's knees.
Societe Generale is in a better standing than you here. Some courts in some countries (France) using their enforcement agencies will most likely do their bidding for them.
In other words I can fine everyone millions of dollars. Look I fined you and everyone here $1B. Guess what chance I have of collecting that?
Disregard other things, deep down that is what it boils down to.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which is this ocean you are talking about? Because Europe has only the Atlantic Ocean on its West and the nearest countries on the Other side of the Atlantic are the US and Canada.
Perhaps the Mediterranean? They call it a "sea" if you want to be pedantic.
Yes they call it a sea, because it is not an ocean, I don't understand why you call me a pendant. More importantly though, you might not be following the news in Europe, but many immigrants try to cross the Mediterranean in order to get into Europe, and many unfortunately die. So it is not that it keeps anyone away.
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#134Not surprising, there is no free speech in France. Especially when it comes to crooked banks or politicians. France is a strange country that likes to give lessons about democracy to the rest of the world, but when you look at things closer, France is closer to a monarchy than a democracy. Everything is so centralised that information usually comes from an single source of truth, that journalist dont even bother ques…
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None of the things you cited really have anything to do with freedom? You listed education, justice, wealth, and welfare. All the literacy in the world won't help you if you're not allowed to talk about the government--but maybe the CAF will make you less inclined to complain.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean by "no jurisdiction over someone?" If a crime was committed in france they can ask for extradition. That would probably not result in anything in this case, but as long as it's a crime by french law committed in france the case may as well be valid. So all the court will check whether a punishable crime was committed in france. They could collect the fine when the blogger enters france or maybe, depe…
> If a crime was committed in france they can ask for extradition. But it wasn't "committed in France". This is getting ridiculous, not to mention extremely dangerous . A few more cases of these from the "democracies" of the world, and soon China will start demanding the same thing. "You said something bad about China online? We're just going to fine you, or ask for your extradition and arrest."
France could just be following in the footsteps of the O'Dwyer case.
Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale
#136This judgment is unenforceable in the United States as a matter of public policy (thanks to our First Amendment). So it's merely an attempt by Société Générale to muzzle critics. If Mish were a multinational company with operations in France, it would be different. But he's not. So he can gleefully ignore it, as he is, correctly, doing.
Even better, he is publicizing it.
Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
What in God's holy name does GDP have to do with free speech?
How is freer, a wealthy, educated, socially mobile person with healthcare who can't say certain things, or a starving person who can say anything they like? There's a difference between "defacto freedom" and "dejure" freedom.
Do you think Patrick Henry said "Give me liberty, or give me death" - do you think John Hancock signed his name so big to attract the personal attention of King George III - do you think the American troops starving to death at Valley Forge in the winter of 1778 went up against the best military in the world - because they thought they would be better off without freedom?
Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale
#138I hereby fine Société Générale for overuse of acute accents.
Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale
#139Hilarious. It baffles me how this country continues to operate given the massive public spending/benefits, delightful reforms (e.g. proposed 80% tax rate for high-earners) and pretty xenophobic view on immigration. ALL of my (highly-skilled) French friends do not plan to return in the foreseeable future.
>my (highly-skilled) French friends do not plan to return in the foreseeable future
Selection bias alert! You're more likely to meet people who swore to never return than those don't mind returning.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps the Mediterranean? They call it a "sea" if you want to be pedantic.
Yes they call it a sea, because it is not an ocean, I don't understand why you call me a pendant. More importantly though, you might not be following the news in Europe, but many immigrants try to cross the Mediterranean in order to get into Europe, and many unfortunately die. So it is not that it keeps anyone away.
It is pedantic because their are no sea where he lives, so making the distinction is (from his point of view) somewhat useless