In some places, table-based designs are apparently still hip, and I come across few for localization. Gives me huge facepalm dealing with them...
you are posting on a table based design right now
At least it is for the contents that somewhat makes it understandable, being it's mostly listing of data.
What I'm talking about is table layout being used for the sole purpose of aesthetic reasons. And those I've seen so many of those sites using bad design decisions every corner (texts embedded entirely as a graphic, etc.) and they are usually one speaks out their concern about SEO...
I'm pretty sure a .doc file created fifteen years ago also still renders in Word. Same for a PDF file created 15 years ago or most other formats. So I don't really see your point about open standards in this case.
I'm pretty sure a .doc file created fifteen years ago also still renders in Word. Check this out: http://timtyson.us/archives/2008/01/theft-by-taking/ Old MS Office file formats were never engineered to be future proof in any way, and they're a huge headache for Microsoft, and they do indeed behave oddly in new software, and Microsoft cannot wait to get rid of them, and nobody in their right mind can blame them, hone…
> Open standards rock.
I'd like to expand on this. The Microsoft Word team is the only group of people that ever had any say over what goes in a Word document. In the old days, a Word document was nothing more than the serialized version of what Word had in memory. Photoshop files are the same way. As soon as you're not the only one with a say over the file format, you turn it into a standard. And you step up to make it a good standard because otherwise nobody's going to use it.
An HTML file virtually unchanged in fifteen years still renders cleanly in a modern browser. Backwards compatibility across open standards is a wonderful thing.
I was half expecting some if the words to blink at me, but, of course, support for the blink tag has been removed from modern browsers. Hooray for opinionated code.
A look at the source shows no blink or marquee tags, unfortunately.
"Open standards /rock/." is a bit overblown, don't you think? There are still very real problems with open (read: sort of "open") standards. In the end we all just want something that works. There are indeed a great deal of proprietary solutions which satisfy this criteria, and continue to do so for many years.
We're much better off with formats that were documented with inter compatibility in mind in the first place. Historically, it's been quite difficult to build products that work with MSO formats as MS not only did not help meaningfully but actively seeks to hinder others from doing so - plus the format is buggy and odd. Read what Wikipedia has to say on the history of the .doc format: >Some specifications for Microsof…
I don't disagree. I'm just sensitive to the "open standards /rock/" thing. It glosses over a lot of nuance. What I'm trying to suggest is that something being an "open standard" does not necessarily make it better. Historically, there have been a number of open standards which have been failures for technical reasons, political reasons (within the community behind the standard), no good reason, etc.
I was half expecting some if the words to blink at me, but, of course, support for the blink tag has been removed from modern browsers. Hooray for opinionated code.
A look at the source shows no blink or marquee tags, unfortunately.
and no fancy parallax, lightbox, autoscoll, or swipe to load.
Listed as "Abandonware" in one of their linked Fan sites and readily downloadable if you can't get the trial to work. http://vales.com/mtm2/
I doubt it's public domain, but I doubt Microsoft would go after you, too.
That's sort of the definition of abandonware - the publisher has apparently given up trying to make money off the thing but also not explicitly released it for free either.
The System Requirements brought back memories: * Multimedia PC with a Pentium 133 or higher processor * Microsoft® Windows® 95 operating system or Windows NT® Workstation operating system version 4.0 with Service Pack 3 * 16 MB of RAM; 32MB recommended * 30 MB of available hard-disk space; 110 MB recommended * Quad-speed CD-ROM drive; 6x recommended * Super VGA, 16-bit color monitor * Microsoft Mouse or compatible po…
What that doesn't mention is how much better the game looked when you ran it on something like a 3dfx Voodoo card. I remember when I upgraded from an S3 card to a Voodoo 3, the game suddenly had things like windshield glare and partially transparent water, and much higher texture resolutions.
At least it is for the contents that somewhat makes it understandable, being it's mostly listing of data. What I'm talking about is table layout being used for the sole purpose of aesthetic reasons. And those I've seen so many of those sites using bad design decisions every corner (texts embedded entirely as a graphic, etc.) and they are usually one speaks out their concern about SEO...
Tables are honestly just more convenient than CSS hacks sometimes. In this case, by hacks I mean when the feeling becomes clear that you're spending more time bending CSS to do what you wanted to do with a table than the time it would've taken to maintain a table.