You know what I like about the new Gmail compose? Nothing.
Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose
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Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
What a load of crap. Plenty of untasteful and inconsistent crap had come out of Apple, under Jobs; it's painfully easy to find examples [0]. Everyone is going to have their opinions, of course, but the compose, unlabeled / iconography buttons, detractors of WYSIWYG emails, etc are _not_ disasters for myself and many others. [0] http://www.tuaw.com/2011/12/06/on-ui-inconsistency-in-ios-5/
If you're going to be so belligerent, at least use an example of something that wasn't developed while Jobs was disengaged and on his deathbed. More importantly, though, I love that you read 2 paragraphs and then blew your top ("what a load of crap" -- really?) over a parenthetical comment that was already qualified with a "probably."
Here're some, random, examples off a Google SERP...
From an acclaimed Apple-enthusiast: http://daringfireball.net/2004/10/themes
Ever seen the window controls for a full-screen iTunes 10? http://zapp0.staticworld.net/reviews/graphics/products/uploa...
More: http://watchingapple.com/2008/05/how-apples-contextual-menus...
May Jobs rest in peace, but iOS 5 didn't just materialize in a single day, and Jobs presented it, undoubtedly as the next-best sliced bread, at WWDC.
More importantly, though, I love that you read 1 paragraph and then blew your top ("belligerent" -- really?) over a comment. It's really tiring to hear about how "if only Jobs were here" or "Jobs would never let this happen!" pg should know better, and so, I won't hold his hand.
Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everything about the new Google Maps besides the maps themselves is so mindbogglingly bad that I have no idea how they thought it was ready for public consumption. It seems to be missing most of the features of the classic Google Maps, and those that are present are far harder to use. The UI for the public transit schedules is pretty much the only thing that seems like it could be an improvement once I get used to it…
I can't even figure out how to get a permalink in Maps anymore. Nightmare.
It's the chain button next to the printer button just to the left of the map. It's... right there. What would you prefer they do to make it easier for you?
[EDIT] Oh, looks like I don't have the new version yet. Oops. Thanks for the correction.
Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everything about the new Google Maps besides the maps themselves is so mindbogglingly bad that I have no idea how they thought it was ready for public consumption. It seems to be missing most of the features of the classic Google Maps, and those that are present are far harder to use. The UI for the public transit schedules is pretty much the only thing that seems like it could be an improvement once I get used to it…
I've especially been missing the ability to make directions with multiple stops (I used to use that feature about 50% of the time). Also, the interface is a lot slower - it's tolerable on my 1 year old computer, but it's close to unusable on my 5 year old laptop.
It works just fine for me in chrome on my six-year-old laptop. What browser are you using?
Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose
#135I find it very hard to have sympathy for someone who says "For better or worse, email takes up a large part of my work life." and then chooses to use a free, ad-supported email service.
If this is such a crucial tool for you, then you should be willing to pay a reasonable price for something you're happy with instead of just complaining about it online.
Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a reason for this pattern. When I complained to a friend at Google about the new GMail compose, he said that what was driving it was that Larry wanted a beautiful, consistent look throughout all Google's products. That sort of motivation leads to design disasters. The various Google products may have been inconsistent, but each of their designs was the product of long evolution. Steve Jobs could probably have…
What a load of crap. Plenty of untasteful and inconsistent crap had come out of Apple, under Jobs; it's painfully easy to find examples [0]. Everyone is going to have their opinions, of course, but the compose, unlabeled / iconography buttons, detractors of WYSIWYG emails, etc are _not_ disasters for myself and many others. [0] http://www.tuaw.com/2011/12/06/on-ui-inconsistency-in-ios-5/
I think you misread pg's point. He didn't say jobs produced perfect consistency.
Pg said that forcing consistency tends to result in bad design decisions. Maybe jobs could do it, page can't.
To disprove that point, you'd need to show an example of forced consistency across apple platforms that degraded usability. Showing inconsistency isn't responding to the argument.
Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't even figure out how to get a permalink in Maps anymore. Nightmare.
It's the chain button next to the printer button just to the left of the map. It's... right there. What would you prefer they do to make it easier for you? [EDIT] Oh, looks like I don't have the new version yet. Oops. Thanks for the correction.
No, it is not. The new maps does not have a print button:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/maps/vLT6DzwLd...
Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've especially been missing the ability to make directions with multiple stops (I used to use that feature about 50% of the time). Also, the interface is a lot slower - it's tolerable on my 1 year old computer, but it's close to unusable on my 5 year old laptop.
It works just fine for me in chrome on my six-year-old laptop. What browser are you using?
I'm not op, but I used chrome on a fully upgraded 2011 13 inch MacBook air. New maps was so slow it was unusable. I used chrome.
Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a reason for this pattern. When I complained to a friend at Google about the new GMail compose, he said that what was driving it was that Larry wanted a beautiful, consistent look throughout all Google's products. That sort of motivation leads to design disasters. The various Google products may have been inconsistent, but each of their designs was the product of long evolution. Steve Jobs could probably have…
This was a good comment but the Steve Jobs bit was unnecessary (because people like me will get distracted and flame you for it).
Is your distraction his problem though?
Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose
#140Lately I've had a persistent feeling of annoyance with several Google products. Each annoyance is small enough to tolerate individually, but in aggregate it seems to me that Google has really lost something in the attention-to-detail department; this kind of persistent annoyance was the same thing that led me to Google from other services years ago. Two examples: - maps: new interface is so terrible that I am activel…
There's a reason for this pattern. When I complained to a friend at Google about the new GMail compose, he said that what was driving it was that Larry wanted a beautiful, consistent look throughout all Google's products. That sort of motivation leads to design disasters. The various Google products may have been inconsistent, but each of their designs was the product of long evolution. Steve Jobs could probably have…
It will be interesting to see how the new design of iOS 7 goes with this in mind.