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Post by igravious »

grote wrote: post #109
igravious wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A part-solution. All tech geeks set up mail servers with encryption and volunteer to migrate their non-tech friends and family to new email homes. We also show how to configure encryption in their mail clients and start getting them to use native email clients rather than webmail. This will have two effects. It will send a message to Google/Microsoft/Yahoo!/insert big mail provider here/... that they have been lax in…

There is also https://mykolab.com that PJ now uses: If you have to stay on the Internet, my research indicates that the short term safety from surveillance, to the degree that is even possible, is to use a service like Kolab for email, which is located in Switzerland, and hence is under different laws than the US, laws which attempt to afford more privacy to citizens. I have now gotten for myself an email there, p.jo…

Wow. I completely missed that first time around. Good catch!

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Post by tzs »

mortov wrote: post #92
brown9-2 wrote: post #70

Can anyone explain for the uninformed how anything like surveillance affects Groklaw? I was under the (probably wrong) impression that most of what Groklaw did was explain the law and court cases in simple terms.

Groklaw started with some serious in-depth background knowledge of the whole SCO - Linux stuff (there's too much to describe it as anything else). That sort of information comes from having serious inside, in-depth background information. You know, the sort of stuff serious investigative journalists /used/ to do. Like the Washington Post in 1972 when they reported on illegal activity by the President ( http://en.wiki…

I may have missed it, but I don't recall any back channel information from Deep Throat type sources there. What I recall was a lot of documents readily available to lawyers but somewhat a pain in the ass for average people to track down and get copies of, especially for free.

Note that I am not saying there were none...just that I never noticed them. Anyone have an example or two?

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Post by digitalengineer »

bostik wrote: post #72
jgg wrote: post #35

Since we weren't allowed to say it when it was relevant, and the point was muddled and trampled on in pseudo-rational debates (“Can you find evidence that they’re abusing this new legislation?”, etc.), I'll go ahead and say it now: it's happening. There's still a big world outside the Internet, and yet ironically, we live in a world where some employers are so stupid that they won't hire someone without a Facebook, m…

> best way to control a population is to analyze and manipulate the information they consume That brought back a quote from a past: "He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past." I had to look it up to get the exact wording right. Was only half surprised that it comes from Orwell's 1984.

Agreed. Some time ago on HN: Law firms forcing online newspapers to delete older articles. No one cares, it's old news right? Step by step they're changing history.

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Post by kaoD »

rlpb wrote: post #128
kaoD wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe realtime was not the best choice of a word, but Freenet cannot handle email in any case. Freenet is a global distributed p2p file database. Email does not fit that medium.

> Email does not fit that medium. Why not? Email can be implemented in a global p2p file database. Every "email" simply adds another file. Privacy can be ensured with encryption (as long as the encryption is not broken, at least). See existing Freenet message boards for an example. It may not be Internet RFC821/822 (and subsequent standards) Email, but it is email. What part of this will not fit the Freenet model?

How would you send the new file to your recipient?

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Post by angersock »

cookiecaper wrote: post #107

...Can PJ not figure out GnuPG? Is she officially retiring from any and all digital correspondence contrary to her notice that "[her] email [addresses] still work"? She says she's getting off the internet to whatever extent possible, and then asks people to continue to send her mail. I also find it cute that people believe facilities based in other Western nations are outside of the NSA's reach. I gotta say that stop…

She makes the observation that any encrypted email is held on to for ~5 years--this may be why she didn't want to bother with the GPG bollocks.

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Post by xradionut »

FedRegister wrote: post #120
cookiecaper wrote: post #107

...Can PJ not figure out GnuPG? Is she officially retiring from any and all digital correspondence contrary to her notice that "[her] email [addresses] still work"? She says she's getting off the internet to whatever extent possible, and then asks people to continue to send her mail. I also find it cute that people believe facilities based in other Western nations are outside of the NSA's reach. I gotta say that stop…

>Can PJ not figure out GnuPG? I'm sure she can, but by doing so has reduced the set of people capable of sending her mail significantly by imposing the requirement that they figure out GnuPG before they send her an email.

If you want to use it, you can figure it out. It requires more work than most people care about.

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Post by Torn »

rolux wrote: post #29
mixmax wrote: post #20

While I understand her (1) personal reasons for shutting down Groklaw, this is an extraordinarily bad decision for privacy and democracy. In the last few weeks quite a few providers of private communications and/or freedom (for some definition of freedom) have shut down. Lavabot, Freedom Hosting, etc. If the US could shut down The Guardian they would. This leaves fewer and fewer secure channels for private communicat…

> While I understand his personal reasons pj = Pamela Jones But yeah, it's devastating -- especially when it comes just one day after a editor of the Guardian states that they can no longer report on certain topics from London. It seems like we need entirely new communication protocols.

For anyone looking for the sort of topics the Guardian can no-longer report on, and the dangers all reporters now face:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/19/david-m...

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Post by fnordfnordfnord »

mixmax wrote: post #20

While I understand her (1) personal reasons for shutting down Groklaw, this is an extraordinarily bad decision for privacy and democracy. In the last few weeks quite a few providers of private communications and/or freedom (for some definition of freedom) have shut down. Lavabot, Freedom Hosting, etc. If the US could shut down The Guardian they would. This leaves fewer and fewer secure channels for private communicat…

I made the same mistake WRT pj's gender. Read groklaw for a long time before noticing.

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Post by cookiecaper »

angersock wrote: post #135
cookiecaper wrote: post #107

...Can PJ not figure out GnuPG? Is she officially retiring from any and all digital correspondence contrary to her notice that "[her] email [addresses] still work"? She says she's getting off the internet to whatever extent possible, and then asks people to continue to send her mail. I also find it cute that people believe facilities based in other Western nations are outside of the NSA's reach. I gotta say that stop…

She makes the observation that any encrypted email is held on to for ~5 years--this may be why she didn't want to bother with the GPG bollocks.

The thing is, GPG is not bollocks. Barring a major unforeseen discovery, RSA cryptography will easily stand up to five years' retention.

If you're worried, use a long keylength. I've been using 4096-bit keys for over a year now and there's no noticeable performance hit for regular comms on my computer. On my phone, 4096 is noticeably slower than 2048, but it still works fine (probably about a 5-10 sec operation to decrypt an ordinary email, and I have a comparatively "old" phone).

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Post by zenocon »

rolux wrote: post #29
mixmax wrote: post #20

While I understand her (1) personal reasons for shutting down Groklaw, this is an extraordinarily bad decision for privacy and democracy. In the last few weeks quite a few providers of private communications and/or freedom (for some definition of freedom) have shut down. Lavabot, Freedom Hosting, etc. If the US could shut down The Guardian they would. This leaves fewer and fewer secure channels for private communicat…

> While I understand his personal reasons pj = Pamela Jones But yeah, it's devastating -- especially when it comes just one day after a editor of the Guardian states that they can no longer report on certain topics from London. It seems like we need entirely new communication protocols.

> It seems like we need entirely new communication protocols

How about new government - one that isn't broken and tramples on all of our civil liberties? The first step is to dismantle the military industrial complex

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