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Re: Ubuntu Edge

#131

Haha oh wow. They're charging hundreds of dollars to add a free OS into a smartphone. And they expect to get 32 million just for the promise. Someone lock these people up before they do some real damage.

I would downvote you if I could. I'm pretty tired of seeing snark like this and thinking how many people get discouraged of trying something new and bold for fear it would be met with an attitude like yours. Piss off.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

#132
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While this is possible with IndieGoGo, they selected to only receive funds if the project is fully funded. This is detailed under the "Contribute now" button.

Hrm... you're right. I'm wondering why they would do that? Does it really take $32M to create a new phone for mass market?

at least. And it is "one run only" phone.

This is for selling the whole production series.

It is only around 40 000 phones. Most phones sell at least in millions.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

#133

"For a phone to run a full desktop OS, it must have the raw power of a PC. We’ll choose the fastest available multi-core processor, at least 4GB of RAM and a massive 128GB of storage" I would love to be wrong but I'm not buying the promise of a (real world functioning) PC on a phone. ARM based chips are 1 order of magnitude slower than a desktop x86 counterpart, currently there is no such processor to perform as desk…

> full desktop OS Maemo (full-fledged Debian-based mobile distro, now dead, thanks Elop) user here. Is Ubuntu Phone really running a full-fledged desktop-as-we-know-it GNU/Linux-derived distro? Because, after I heard about bionic+libhybris stuff and some chroot kludges I start highly doubt it. It's as "Ubuntu desktop" as chrooted Ubuntu install on Android, except for more optimized (compared to VNC-to-localhost, huh)…

Your "wrong", but only b/c the container flip happened recently. They had the Android chroot thing to get going quickly, from what I can gather.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-July/037...

Ubuntu Touch is fully Ubuntu and can take advantage of all that goodness.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

#134

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On every[0] Humble Bundle so far, the highest average donations come from Linux users. On some, they've even donated the same amount or more in total dollars compared to OS X users - ie, Linux users have been more profitable even though they have a much smaller market share. In short, Linux users are very profitable (per-user). [0] I can't confirm that it's 100%, but it's been every Humble Bundle I've participated in…

I noticed that too and have always wondered why. Maybe the lack of games make Linux users appreciate it more?

That and the fact that a lot of people want Linux to succeed as a desktop platform.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

#135
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sapphire screen. I am in love with the idea of a sapphire screen. It's the same material as higher end watches, and those don't get scratches. I wonder how that affects its strength under dropping.

The hardness doesn't mean that it won't break or crack. The only difference is that in low-impact situations it won't scratch as easily.

I wonder how it'll handle high impact situations, then, like being dropped.

Given the novel shape, I imagine there won't be very many cases released for it...

Re: Ubuntu Edge

#136

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On every[0] Humble Bundle so far, the highest average donations come from Linux users. On some, they've even donated the same amount or more in total dollars compared to OS X users - ie, Linux users have been more profitable even though they have a much smaller market share. In short, Linux users are very profitable (per-user). [0] I can't confirm that it's 100%, but it's been every Humble Bundle I've participated in…

I noticed that too and have always wondered why. Maybe the lack of games make Linux users appreciate it more?

When you use a lot of FOSS, I think (at least for myself) I tend to pick my spots to get closed-source, for-cost software. If it'll run well on my platform, and I like the organization developing it, it feels more like... monetary collaboration, say, than simply buying another thing. If you're used to buying all your software, paying the minimum might look like just the (perfectly reasonable) cheapest way to get it?

Not to suggest that there actually IS any difference between the two groups when they pay - I just feel like more a good-deed-doing partner when I voluntarily pay more for something like humble bundle, that's all. It's silly and false, but it's definitely a feeling.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

#137

From nearly every perspective, this seems like a no brainer. 1. The hardware they talked about would be better than anything out there now, most likely better than anything in 2014. 2. They mentioned dual boot. If you don't like Ubuntu, you can put on Android and have a better phone than anything out in the next year. 3. You'll get the first Ubuntu production phone. For $600 (today) or $830 (not today?) this is a fre…

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Re: Ubuntu Edge

#138
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i have to wonder how many ubuntu users are using ubuntu simply for the cost of owning it ($0). If that group is high, which i think it is, it may imply that a lot of those same users, might not want to put money into a project. Speculation.

I think your speculation is quite wrong. Linux users are typically the highest payers for games, on average.

Way I look at it, there's fewer commercial games on the platform, so users are more grateful and focused on buying those games.

A single, idealistic phone like this will allow those users to focus and buy it - in much the same way as the games.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

#140
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I'm gathering that the handset makers and carriers and VCs laughed them out of the office, so they had to go this route. I would have expected to read something like, the phone is an enhanced version of x/y/z with these features, we got a great deal from (manufacturer), but we need 50,000 pre-orders to proceed.

Ubuntu Edge is orthogonal to existing commercial discussions with OEMs and operators. It's a premier, demonstration platform, not a mass market device.

oh, it's orthogonal. so it's got that going for it, which is nice.
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