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iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by wmeredith »

geuis wrote: post #51

Folks, stop bitching and complaining about this or that idea being good/bad/impractical etc, etc. It's a designer's demo portfolio work. http://www.johnnyplaid.com Designers do this stuff because they have ideas about how devices and interfaces can change and they explore those ideas. It doesn't seem to me that Johnny is making claims about inside information. He's using his visual talents to create mockups of what m…

Yeah, as usual HN is taking itself a touch too seriously. This is the design equivalent of re-creating $nineties-video-game or whatever else in $modern-language. It's an exercise used to stretch a designer creative and technical legs.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by 1123581321 »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #130
mayank wrote: post #99

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You may be taking this a bit too literally. I saw it as a designer's attempt to build marketing for a fictional device that is fun to imagine. If you've ever read science fiction, there's a certain joy in imagining new devices with capabilities that currently seem impossible. Without this sort of imagination , like the tricorder that you point out, a whole lot of contemporary engineers might have never found this ins…

That is the nature of the uncanny valley, it is where the result is 'real enough' that one part of your brain classifies it as 'real' but it still has enough flaws that another part of your brain yells 'wrong'. That dissonance is uncomfortable. Per my point about a tri-corder (a clearly fictional device) had he made his project "more clearly fictional" it would have avoided that uncanny valley. Basing it on the iPhon…

We should be thankful for people who venture into uncanny valleys or any gap between safe-and-works the next generation technology. The work that finally crosses over the valley and is widely accepted is built on the work that didn't. We need those attempts and should encourage them.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by ChuckMcM »

1123581321 wrote: post #132
ChuckMcM wrote: post #130

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That is the nature of the uncanny valley, it is where the result is 'real enough' that one part of your brain classifies it as 'real' but it still has enough flaws that another part of your brain yells 'wrong'. That dissonance is uncomfortable. Per my point about a tri-corder (a clearly fictional device) had he made his project "more clearly fictional" it would have avoided that uncanny valley. Basing it on the iPhon…

We should be thankful for people who venture into uncanny valleys or any gap between safe-and-works the next generation technology. The work that finally crosses over the valley and is widely accepted is built on the work that didn't. We need those attempts and should encourage them.

I think you missed the point (but correct me if I'm wrong) the 'uncanny valley' is an artifact. It can be a positive (Escher's case) or a negative (any number of nearly perfect CGI scenes in films). In this designer's case it distracted me from his goal of presenting his skills as a designer. Had he done the same thing with a clearly non-actual product, my response would have focused on his skill at rendering a good looking device and compelling narrative, rather than thinking "wait, that isn't even possible, this is crazy" which I don't think was his intent given that this was a portfolio project. But I cannot speak for him, only to my reaction to it.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by pbreit »

jblock wrote: post #46
aroman wrote: post #25

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I disagree. Just build a strong magnet in there (as was suggested, maybe via the speaker). The advantage of the connector would not be the disconnect-on-trip feature, but rather convenience for plugging and unplugging. Namely, it's a lot easier to just have the cord snap it place magnetically than to futz around with the small metal tip[0]. You're assuming it'd either be too weak or too strong. They would calibrate i…

Regardless, I still don't want a big magnet in my pocket

Why not put the magnet on the cable?

Saying that this could "never work" is silly.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by gurkendoktor »

dkuntz2 wrote: post #98
arrrg wrote: post #68

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Yeah, well he is not an industrial designer, doesn’t advertise himself as one and doesn’t sell his industrial design skills. Which he doesn’t have. Doesn’t even claim to have. Not even a little bit. He is a fucking graphic designer and that’s exactly how you should judge this.

He's a graphic designer? Than where's some original graphics? The entire thing looks like he made a tweak to an iPhone model, but didn't produce anything nearing original, and slightly modified the iPhone website. None of the assets look original, and there doesn't actually seem to be any graphic design involved. The entire thing looks to be a showcase of non-existent industrial design skills. Hows that for judging i…

I thought the app icons were pretty good.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by PeterisP »

bbrks wrote: post #120
jblock wrote: post #46

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Regardless, I still don't want a big magnet in my pocket

Yep, right next to all your cards. Brilliant idea if ever I'd seen one.

Are any of your cards still magnetic? In my wallet all bank cards use chips, other cards (subway tickets, etc) tend to be wireless/NFC, the remainder (IDs, licences) are either nonfunctional plastic, or chips as well.

OK, in travels some countries probably still try to read the creditcard magstripe, that may be a problem for a part of population. Otherwise it's just like worrying about the macbook demagnetizing your floppy disks..

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by keypusher »

arrrg wrote: post #68
sbierwagen wrote: post #53

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If this is an advertisement, then all it advertises is that he is incompetent at industrial design.

Yeah, well he is not an industrial designer, doesn’t advertise himself as one and doesn’t sell his industrial design skills. Which he doesn’t have. Doesn’t even claim to have. Not even a little bit. He is a fucking graphic designer and that’s exactly how you should judge this.

Perhaps he should stick to graphic design then, and stay away from industrial design.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by dkuntz2 »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #135
dkuntz2 wrote: post #98

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He's a graphic designer? Than where's some original graphics? The entire thing looks like he made a tweak to an iPhone model, but didn't produce anything nearing original, and slightly modified the iPhone website. None of the assets look original, and there doesn't actually seem to be any graphic design involved. The entire thing looks to be a showcase of non-existent industrial design skills. Hows that for judging i…

I thought the app icons were pretty good.

I honestly couldn't see a difference from the ones used in iOS 7...

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by arrrg »

lotyrin wrote: post #72
arrrg wrote: post #68

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Yeah, well he is not an industrial designer, doesn’t advertise himself as one and doesn’t sell his industrial design skills. Which he doesn’t have. Doesn’t even claim to have. Not even a little bit. He is a fucking graphic designer and that’s exactly how you should judge this.

If he's not an industrial designer, then why is this an industrial design? It's like you hand me an album of somebody scratching at a violin for 80 minutes and tell me that the point was the album art, he's "not a musician" and "not advertising himself as one", gosh. Excuse us silly engineers that got distracted by the actual content of the damn link. Guess we didn't see the trees for the forest. If the point is to h…

Sometimes I hate stupid engineers. They are such assholes sometimes that just do not get it at all.

This fucking thing is some stupid fun. Nothing more. I’m not sure what this cynicism burning with the power of a million suns shit is all about. Why do people behave this way?

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by bbrks »

PeterisP wrote: post #136
bbrks wrote: post #120

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Yep, right next to all your cards. Brilliant idea if ever I'd seen one.

Are any of your cards still magnetic? In my wallet all bank cards use chips, other cards (subway tickets, etc) tend to be wireless/NFC, the remainder (IDs, licences) are either nonfunctional plastic, or chips as well. OK, in travels some countries probably still try to read the creditcard magstripe, that may be a problem for a part of population. Otherwise it's just like worrying about the macbook demagnetizing your…

My railcard is magnetic only, as well as my student discount card and several store cards.

My university ID uses a magnetic strip and RFID. However the university disabled RFID usage on all of the printers, doors, etc. on day zero after people found out you could easily spoof them.

Granted, at least my important cards use chips/NFC now.

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