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Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by Toshio »

johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

> "There is apparently no way to turn it off, either."

Yes, there is, if you are willing to live a Spartan e-mail lifestyle, like I do.

Simply go to:

https://mail.google.com/mail/h/

I never really liked their new-fangled interface they came up with a few years ago, and they said they wouldn't deprecate the old one, so I kept using it.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by k-mcgrady »

jiggy2011 wrote: post #78
johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

I don't understand the logic behind the new tiny compose window, it looks like something from an IM program. If I'm composing an email surely the most important thing is the thing I am composing, so why give it 1/4 of the screen space? The second most important thing is the email I am replying to, but the compose window pops up over the top of that obscuring a chunk of it.

I think the logic is that you can search through email for things while composing. e.g. I'm composing an email and referring to something in another email I got a few days ago. I can search for that email, read it, and then get back to composing. Perviously I would have had to save the email I was composing as a draft, find my other email, then go back and open the draft.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by pmjordan »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #132
jiggy2011 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the logic behind the new tiny compose window, it looks like something from an IM program. If I'm composing an email surely the most important thing is the thing I am composing, so why give it 1/4 of the screen space? The second most important thing is the email I am replying to, but the compose window pops up over the top of that obscuring a chunk of it.

I think the logic is that you can search through email for things while composing. e.g. I'm composing an email and referring to something in another email I got a few days ago. I can search for that email, read it, and then get back to composing. Perviously I would have had to save the email I was composing as a draft, find my other email, then go back and open the draft.

With the "old" compose UI, you can/could click the box-with-arrow button to transition into a new browser tab or window. Solves the same problem without trying to re-invent windows in HTML. I'm guessing this didn't work (well) on Chrome OS or something?

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by rca »

johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

In the 'configure inbox' panel you can disable tabs you don't care for. If you only keep 'primary', it's pretty much turned off. Now google might force it on you sometime in the future, but I don't really see what would be the point... However I think it would be nice to be able to create custom tabs and associate filters/label to them. I really could see myself putting various mailing list to their own tabs.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by com2kid »

auctiontheory wrote: post #89
Simucal wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I realize this is subjective, but I personally love the tabbed inbox. Having all the "promotional" emails I get sent moved to a separate tab where I only have to look at them when I want to has completely tamed my inbox. My primary tab now only has messages that I care about. I only wish it was implemented in a way that all clients could utilize it. I personally don't use the Gmail iOS client because I have several w…

That's what Filters and Labels are for.

In my experience, the second I move something out of my inbox and into a label I never see it again. That entire left sidebar in Gmail is so messy I pretty much entirely forget about anything that gets lost in there.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by tallanvor »

medde wrote: post #73
eli wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an estimate. It would add additional time to the search to calculate an exact number.

If it works like Google-Search, results are not an estimate, or not even random, it looks like it is inflated .... for example, if you navigate to https://www.google.com/search?q=zzzfgh , it tells you 5,900 results until you reach a page where there is no more results and it tells you 484 results (for example, I never seen an estimate that was lower then the real count)

Duplicate removal generally happens after the initial count is received. That's why you can get major variations in the count and the actual number of results.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by claudius »

robk wrote: post #106
masnick wrote: post #10

If you're tired of the gmail interface (like I was), I'd highly recommend http://fastmail.fm . I made the switch (moved 55k+ messages with http://protips.maxmasnick.com/export-gmail-to-fastmail-or-an... ) and haven't looked back. FastMail offers a similar infinite scroll feature. I was able to select and move several thousand messages through the web interface when I was first configuring it. FastMail's highlights fo…

I can't see how Sieve is significantly better than Gmail rules. Reading the examples, I seem to have the ability to do everything listed, with the exception of actually rejecting messages (versus quietly deleting/archiving).

That’s mostly because the email has already been accepted by the incoming SMTP server by the time it gets to Sieve, hence cannot be ‘rejected’ at the SMTP level anymore.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by 7952 »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #94
johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

Yes, it is nearly unusable for me now and it is getting worse. I've thought a lot about it and I believe the problem is related to the requirement of getting new users. Back when Gmail was 'new' it had to be like Eudora or another standalone mail program (or Netscape Communicator if you remember that far back) in order to convert people. It did a good job, but 'new' people, people who have never used a standalone ema…

I still think that desktop outlook is the best email. Email is not a stream of random information but things I need to look at and act upon. The amount of magic in gmail makes this use case impossible.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by josteink »

josteink wrote: post #130
masnick wrote: post #10

If you're tired of the gmail interface (like I was), I'd highly recommend http://fastmail.fm . I made the switch (moved 55k+ messages with http://protips.maxmasnick.com/export-gmail-to-fastmail-or-an... ) and haven't looked back. FastMail offers a similar infinite scroll feature. I was able to select and move several thousand messages through the web interface when I was first configuring it. FastMail's highlights fo…

Thanks to you, I'm now trialing fastmail. You also get one upvote for imapcopy.pl. That thing looks like a godsend for mail-migration to whatever non-Google service I end up using.

Just trying fastmail my first response is wow this thing is fast.

Using something like this, you quickly realize gmail has become incredibly bloated. And to think gmail in its time was the "fast" solution to a bloated hotmail.

Times do change.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

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Post by masnick »

frenger wrote: post #79
masnick wrote: post #10

If you're tired of the gmail interface (like I was), I'd highly recommend http://fastmail.fm . I made the switch (moved 55k+ messages with http://protips.maxmasnick.com/export-gmail-to-fastmail-or-an... ) and haven't looked back. FastMail offers a similar infinite scroll feature. I was able to select and move several thousand messages through the web interface when I was first configuring it. FastMail's highlights fo…

> - An archive folder that works well with the archive functionality in Mail.app and other clients. I switched to Fastmail a few weeks ago and am as pleased with it as you. Just one question though - I can't find a way to recreate the "All Mail" folder from Gmail, where you would delete mail in Mail.app and it would end up in "All Mail". It ends up in Trash instead. Same with my iPhone - if I delete a message there,…

Yeah, it looks like this doesn't appear by default. To make it show up, select a message in your inbox and go to Message > Archive.

That should make this folder appear: http://tmp.m-n.us/m/20130718_k83emkvnc4.png. I believe it is automatically associated with INBOX.Archive on FastMail.

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