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Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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You seem to have confused "armed drone" with "drone".

How so? I think they're just implying that even once police drones are in use it won't necessarily deter suspects from driving erratically.

You may even need to drive faster...

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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So because your father is a cop, you don't even want people to question the actions of the cops in the story? And anyway, so what? It sounds like the gang members were the ones out of control, not the police. If the police had struck Reisse that would be different, but they didn't. But then what if the police had done something reprehensible? Nothing should be said because we need to respect your good natured father?…

This site is about hacking and startups, not political ranting. There are other sites for that.

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Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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According to the article they killed a police officer and ran, if you don't pursue them how are you going to catch them? Aftersll, they did murder someone, and apparently they had warrants, so it seems reasonable to assume we dont want them out running around anymore as they sre likely to commit more fiolent crimes. Furthermore, if have a policy to not pursue, then every criminal is always going to run. The fault is…

You know, police in EU normally don't chase criminals at high speed and they normally found them easily after the fact (especially if they wound/killed a cop). High speed chases are extremely rare, there is no rational need for them (and the consequent danger for passers by).

Given that all of the suspects had outstanding arrest warrants, this episode was the result the suspects 'being found easily after the fact.'

It seems you can find them all you want, but eventually you're going to have to take them in and many times the bad guys just won't want to go.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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Was it responsible for the police to chase them at this time? two vehicles full of people involved in some type of criminal activity Was this yet another incident where the police self-escalated the situation? I sure hope there was a precise reason this happened and not that "they smelled pot".

All of the suspects in the fleeing car had outstanding arrest warrants.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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Just terrible :( Why does it always seem like the worst and most insignificant wastes of human beings always take away great ones?

Because worthwhile people generally don't go around killing others.

Don't be too sure - some of histories supposedly greatest people have also been mass killers. Your views on them largely just depend on which side of the conflict(s) you were on and what time you are in. To take a fairly simple example, Churchill. Lots of good, lots to admire. But plenty of dark decisions and many deaths attributable to these.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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post #100

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the rules all change when one of their own is killed. though it's largely emotional the resulting logic is strong. protection is generated from the fear of an emotional, armed response; so it survives as unwritten police policy everywhere. just as if for example, we felt the same way the police would be quite scared right now.

> the rules all change when one of their own is killed No police officer was killed. As far as I can tell the chase happened when three men fled police who had killed a fellow gang member.

"a physical altercation between police and 26-year-old Gerardo Diego Ayala that ended with a fatal officer-involved shooting."

whoops i read the wrong side of the gun. perhaps assange is right and their language is their undoing.

still, the though of an "emotional" response remains stirring.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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post #114

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> After the police give up the chase, a member of the public is almost invariably killed at an intersection within 30s, since the offender is still driving at high speed but there are no longer any lights and sirens to warn the public. i call BS, citation?

My perception was that the comment was correct however with a quick skim I cant produce anything more than anecdata. The police do seem to be consistently breaking their rules which dictate that the chase ends when it gets dangerous. However crashes do seem to be happen after the chase has ended rather too regularly - about 30 seconds later. Citation. Here is an editorial on the poor stats we have. An interesting asi…

That states the occupants of the car die. Not some random (innocent) member of the public (as the GP stated).

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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After watching police chases on TV my whole life, I really want to know: What's the logical strategy in a police chase? Just keep driving after each other? It risks the lives of hundreds living and walking in the path of the chase all for the sake of punishing 1 or 2 individuals. It just doesn't seem to add up to me. What a shame we lost someone so brilliant for nothing.

The logic of it is that the pursuant might shortly commit further crime and not-pursuing endangers others more than pursuing. Additionally, it might serve as a deterrent to crime if criminals know they will be pursued strenuously. It's not a universally accepted line of reasoning, even in communities across the US. But it's also not one just made up of whole cloth, 'for nothing'.

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Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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I usually don't feel anything when I hear of a innocent person dying on the news, but maybe because he's involved in tech, I too am very angry. Why does the police have to chase anyway? Why can't they just identify the car and silently follow it until it stops. Damn it.

This article isn't available in full online (well, without paying), but it's all about why in the LA area there are so many police chases: http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/01/23/060123fa_fact_fr... I haven't read it since it came out in 2006, but suffice it to say that the Los Angeles area has vastly more police chases per capita than the rest of the United States, and therefore if something like this was going…

For the record, this was in Orange County, not L.A. County.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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This is a good reminder to always be a defensive and aware pedestrian. Just because you have the light or the right-of-way doesn't mean you are guaranteed a safe crossing of the street. Whenever I cross an intersection as a pedestrian I always look both ways (even on one way streets) and I always keep an eye on cars that are still in motion, especially those that don't appear to be slowing down. It's good to make these sorts of things just an innate habit, it could safe your life one day.
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