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Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by moheeb »

grogenaut wrote: post #124
wwwarhawk wrote: post #119

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Uh, yeah, because Sony not even showing the console itself at their announcement is better, right? Wait till E3.

I really only care about 2 things from a console box itself: - will it fit in my cabinet (annoying peripherals included) - does it have a loud fan or flashy lights that are annoying Other than that I never look at the thing except to put a disc in. Who cares what the box looks like. You're going to be looking at your TV SCREEN the whole time.

I have an original Xbox with a bad power supply I'll sell you for $300. Meets all your specs!

"Who cares what the box looks like." I'll just leave the Limp Bizkit stickers on it then.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by psbp »

RobAtticus wrote: post #126
psbp wrote: post #43

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This was good satire in 2000. 13 years later, not owning a t.v. is not the same as being unable to watch traditionally broadcasted shows.

The main point was more about how somebody who doesn't watch TV will always let you know that they don't. Not really the reasons why. I think in that case, the satire is still relevant. Plenty of people on reddit/HN/the Internet almost bragging about how they don't use a traditional TV setup. Basically like the old joke "How can you tell if someone is an atheist? Don't worry, he'll tell you."

Maybe you hear that so often because it's a trend, so the idea of it being the focus of your media center box for the next decade might be a little antiquated.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by zokier »

reidmain wrote: post #95

Neither Sony or Microsoft have told me why I need to buy one of their next-gen consoles. I own a PS3, Xbox 360 and a gaming PC. The 360 came first and combined with Xbox Live it became my default gaming device. Probably 60% of my games are for my Xbox 360. After a few years with my 360 I bought a PS3 because there were some exclusive games I wanted to play. In 2010 Battlefield 3 came out and I built a gaming PC for i…

> Developers will be able to make a game that works on PC, Xbox One and PS4 so easily that brand loyalty will mean a lot less.

Developer effort hasn't been the limiting factor in the current gen either. Exclusivity is all about politics/marketing. And I don't see any signs of that changing.

So the reason to buy a next-gen gaming console would be the same as for the previous: games.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by jonny_eh »

nightski wrote: post #123
sreyaNotfilc wrote: post #102

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The way I see it is that every new gaming console is going to do gaming better than the generation before it. Shouldn't that be a given? Microsoft's job, as far as the Xbox, is the following... 1) Go lobby for components from various manufactures to meet the next-gen specs (whatever that may be) 2) Create tools and APIs for developers to understand the platform for which they are building 3) Improve existing services…

It is not really a given at all. What matters are the games, not the technology behind the console. Showing off a new COD and Madden is pretty sigh worthy at best. My limited circle of friends who game have moved back to PC gaming and given up on consoles. We all own them, but they became glorified Netflix boxes. That was until MS decided to charge $59.99 a year for Xbox Live. Then we all bought Roku devices instead.

MS has always required you to have Xbox Live Gold to access Netflix, no? I only first got Netflix when it came to Canada, so maybe they changed it by then.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by moheeb »

emehrkay wrote: post #50
jellicle wrote: post #47

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You're still going have a layer of terrible user interface where you're picking through all the kitchen-junk-drawer full of items that Microsoft has packed into this device. It won't be labeled "Video 1, Aux 1", true, but you'll still have to pick through every time you want to use the system. Probably end up being more of an interface problem, actually. Power on, wait, skip special offers from Microsoft, no I don't…

Oh and don't forget it phoning home to report on what you're watching/doing

In the old days they didn't have to report home...they knew what you were watching! (It was the only program being sent)

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by jonny_eh »

simba-hiiipower wrote: post #93
path411 wrote: post #73

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What more do you want them to tell you as a gamer about the new system? They released specs and talked about the cloud gaming capabilities. Having more 3rd party game makers demo games for the system doesn't really improve my appeal to the console. I already knew the new xbox would be the next gaming console. It seems like they went for the non-obvious, and wanted to talk about the other features. The games are going…

agreed. people make it sound like they removed some essential features, just because they didn't emphasize them enough (or because they emphasized others more). from what i've seen this appears to match the ps4 in every way - even down to the architecture. the only difference is they glossed-over all that and decided to focus on the ways its differentiated..

They removed the ability to buy, sell, and lend games. You have to pay an undisclosed fee to "install" a game that has already been installed, which is mandatory.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by moheeb »

potatolicious wrote: post #27
microtonal wrote: post #24

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There's a world outside the US. E.g. in most of Europe there are virtually no Netflix or Hulu-like services. Nearly everyone uses a Cable or DVB-T service. A bit painful, considering that my ISP just announced to upgrade my connection from 120/10 MBit/s to 150/15. The bandwidth is there, but I guess it's hard to make licensing arrangements.

Even in the US, even in areas with good enough broadband to stream all your content, people still care about broadcast television because of sports. MS's focus here with ESPN and the NFL is bang-on.

"MS's focus here with ESPN and the NFL is bang-on."

I disagree. They managed to partner with the NFL but yet not show any games. Most of the games for my favorite team I still can't watch. Seems really lame to me.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by jfb »

reidmain wrote: post #95

Neither Sony or Microsoft have told me why I need to buy one of their next-gen consoles. I own a PS3, Xbox 360 and a gaming PC. The 360 came first and combined with Xbox Live it became my default gaming device. Probably 60% of my games are for my Xbox 360. After a few years with my 360 I bought a PS3 because there were some exclusive games I wanted to play. In 2010 Battlefield 3 came out and I built a gaming PC for i…

I would buy two PS4 if they actually announced a real shipping date for The Last Guardian. As it stands, my PS3 will be the last console I buy.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by socialist_coder »

eclipxe wrote: post #121
benbeltran wrote: post #100

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The event's games presentations were oriented to what is usually called the "Bro gamer" demographic (e.g. Madden/FIFA/CoD) ... It focused on TV, for which many of the core gamers don't care. Contrast this to the PS4 announcement, which had many developers and a lot of talk about how the platform is going to be more "open" for the small guys, and it felt really passionate about the "for-gamers" features. As a gamer, I…

"what is usually called the 'bro gamer' demographic"? Just because I like Madden, I'm a "bro gamer" now? Get over yourself.

It's true =\

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by rajanikanthr »

simonsarris wrote: post #8

Most people I know who own a PS3 consider it essentially a blu-ray player. Most people I know who own an Xbox consider it essentially a Netflix player. These people bought games, but they don't really play them. I've got naught but my anecdata, but I think attempting to bill this new console as an entertainment system that happens to also play some great games is a very, very good idea.

I second that.. I used to play lot of games on PC.. I bought xbox and some games , but mostly I will be playing youtube videos thru my android youtube app remotely or play a movie in netflix :)
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