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Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by epsylon »

ahoyhere wrote: post #100
bherms wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately we're in a country (assuming US) where everyone wants handouts and an even playing field, regardless of their lifestyle choices. People demand their offices install ramps for mobility scooters when they're morbidly obese and it's discriminatory not to oblige, but try arguing your work should open later because you drink too much every night. Overeating and copious alcohol consump…

> Out of shape people give me hell all the time for being in excellent physical condition, but they don't know about the 10 miles of running every day My major exertion this week was going to the doctor. I rode in a car, walked 20 ft, sat on a chair, talked, rode home, and had to go lie down and take medicine. As my doctor remarked, "You look grey." Because I have a chronic illness and nobody is sure what exactly it…

You should put things back into context, because I don't think the parent poster targeted you specifically; most obese people aren't obese because of chronic illnesses but because of lifestyle choices (most of the time, having been fed and addicted to unhealthy food since childhood; thus the lifestyle choice might as well be blamed unto parenting shortcomings, which could be blamed their onto poverty and lack of sanitary regulation on food...).

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

#132

Post by MDS100 »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #77
glogla wrote: post #66

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Of course. "Stop being fat, it's easy, look at me how fit I am" is pretty much the same "Stop being poor, it's easy, look at how rich I am."

Not being fat also involves lifestyle choices that are easier to make when you are rich. E.g. want to go workout but you live in a sucky climate? No problem, just drive on over to the gym! Want to live in a better climate where you can bike to work every day? Sure, just move to the bay area. Want to work out before lunch? You have a high value job, your employer will be flexible. Then sometimes its just a matter of c…

Control your eating. More Protein, more veggies. Eating in a way that is healthy and keeps your weight down is not expensive. A few bodyweight exercises can be done several times a week and take only a few minutes. It's possible to be in good shape and lean even if you are poor. If you want too.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by glogla »

OGC wrote: post #64
clicks wrote: post #42

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If anyone in the street just straight up tells anyone they're "ugly", something is seriously fucked up about them. Seriously, go to http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/ and get some tips. Get a new haircut that suits you, maybe consider using some hair product, if you have acne issues or something see a dermatologist, get proper fitting clothes, etc. etc.

Seriously, go to /r/malefashionadvice and buy the uniform..

I'm not entirely sure that fitting t-shirt and fitting jeans are uniform, while non-fitting ones aren't.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

#134

Post by MDS100 »

ahoyhere wrote: post #100
bherms wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately we're in a country (assuming US) where everyone wants handouts and an even playing field, regardless of their lifestyle choices. People demand their offices install ramps for mobility scooters when they're morbidly obese and it's discriminatory not to oblige, but try arguing your work should open later because you drink too much every night. Overeating and copious alcohol consump…

> Out of shape people give me hell all the time for being in excellent physical condition, but they don't know about the 10 miles of running every day My major exertion this week was going to the doctor. I rode in a car, walked 20 ft, sat on a chair, talked, rode home, and had to go lie down and take medicine. As my doctor remarked, "You look grey." Because I have a chronic illness and nobody is sure what exactly it…

Hm, I'm wondering: How does your diet look like? IIRC you already supplementing vitamin D.

Love your work (esp. Talks at Microconf) btw.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

#135

Post by bjourne »

acconrad wrote: post #124
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #16

Evolution wise, this is because people like in others, what they wish they had for themselves. Likewise, people hate in others what they dislike about themselves. We celebrate the beautiful because we wish we too could be beautiful. We mock the ugly/short/gay/fat/skinny/weak because those are qualities that we ourselves do not wish to have. If all of society punishes those with these traits, people with these traits…

First of all you're feeding into your confirmation bias just like the article points out - if you think you're ugly, you're going to believe you're ugly and feed into that negative self image. Second of all, and most importantly, there is much that can be done with regards to improving appearances. If you don't believe me - just search for "models with and without makeup" on Google. The fact is that even the stereoty…

Male beauty is mostly about height which one has little control over. E.g. if op is 5 feet, follows all your advice and looks like Brad Pitt in Fight Club, he will still not be more beautiful than someone who is 6 feet and does not follow it.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

#136

Post by seanmcdirmid »

MDS100 wrote: post #132
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not being fat also involves lifestyle choices that are easier to make when you are rich. E.g. want to go workout but you live in a sucky climate? No problem, just drive on over to the gym! Want to live in a better climate where you can bike to work every day? Sure, just move to the bay area. Want to work out before lunch? You have a high value job, your employer will be flexible. Then sometimes its just a matter of c…

Control your eating. More Protein, more veggies. Eating in a way that is healthy and keeps your weight down is not expensive. A few bodyweight exercises can be done several times a week and take only a few minutes. It's possible to be in good shape and lean even if you are poor. If you want too.

Ok Governor Schwarzenegger, I think you are missing the point. There are three factors that determine your healthiness:

1. Willpower/discipline/ (i.e. if you want too!)

2. Habit (nurture)

3. Environment (income, climate, work schedule, nearby grocery stores)

Any deficiency in one factor must be made up by another. Yes, (1) is good enough if you have a lot of willpower/discipline to spare, but not all of us do. (2) is ideal, but maybe our parents didn't do such a great job. (3) allows perhaps allows you to overcome (1) and (2), but not always.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by MDS100 »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #136
MDS100 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Control your eating. More Protein, more veggies. Eating in a way that is healthy and keeps your weight down is not expensive. A few bodyweight exercises can be done several times a week and take only a few minutes. It's possible to be in good shape and lean even if you are poor. If you want too.

Ok Governor Schwarzenegger, I think you are missing the point. There are three factors that determine your healthiness: 1. Willpower/discipline/ (i.e. if you want too!) 2. Habit (nurture) 3. Environment (income, climate, work schedule, nearby grocery stores) Any deficiency in one factor must be made up by another. Yes, (1) is good enough if you have a lot of willpower/discipline to spare, but not all of us do. (2) is…

Close, but not quite. I'm more german than austrian.

Actually I'm doing my PHD on adherence to healthy habits and behavioural change (preventative medicine with a focus on exactly these things). ;) The whole willpower shtick is a bit overplayed based on the available evidence. The real (first) problem is often learned helplessness. And then a lack of knowledge on how to change things and which things are most important. Shaping your environment and changing your habits without using significant amounts of willpower. It's doable.

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by cafard »

bjourne wrote: post #135
acconrad wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First of all you're feeding into your confirmation bias just like the article points out - if you think you're ugly, you're going to believe you're ugly and feed into that negative self image. Second of all, and most importantly, there is much that can be done with regards to improving appearances. If you don't believe me - just search for "models with and without makeup" on Google. The fact is that even the stereoty…

Male beauty is mostly about height which one has little control over. E.g. if op is 5 feet, follows all your advice and looks like Brad Pitt in Fight Club, he will still not be more beautiful than someone who is 6 feet and does not follow it.

A quibble: movie actors are often not tall, but the American ones are damn rarely not handsome. How tall is Tom Cruise?

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by mikecane »

Kudzu_Bob wrote: post #61
mikecane wrote: post #53

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If you're using that to defend exploiting women, forget it.

Men's hormonal buttons are being pushed by images of hot women in order to empty their wallets, and you think it's the women who are being exploited. That's rich.

Argue with Gloria Steinem, who was once a Playboy bunny. http://www.gloriasteinem.com/updates/2011/8/22/i-was-a-playb...

Re: Being Really, Really, Ridiculously Good Looking

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Post by irishcoffee »

lutusp wrote: post #107
irishcoffee wrote: post #104

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Better idea: Lets tax everyone who gives tall people advantages. The tall person didn't choose to be tall. Their parents didn't have a say in the matter either. Shall we tax them for making a tall heir? You know who had a say in tall people having "advantages"? Everyone who gives them said advantage. Tax them.

With all respect, bad idea. The next logical step would be the ability to choose any arbitrary trait to punish for producing an unfair advantage, like being smart (an overrated trait in many circumstances). Abraham Lincoln was both tall and smart -- such a program would have ruined him. :) Also, ideas like this only add to the power of governments. I think most people will argue there should be a limit to governmenta…

We are in agreement, that was my whole point. =))
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