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Re: Just Use Sublime Text

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irahul wrote: post #96
tikhonj wrote: post #61

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Emacs can be pretty pretty--perhaps not actively pretty, but very elegant in a minimalist sort of way. I'm pretty happy with how mine looks[1], for example. [1]: http://jelv.is/emacs-blackboard.png Also, have you tried Evil? Apparently it's a very good Vim-emulation mode for Emacs, highly recommended over Viper.

> Emacs can be pretty pretty--perhaps not actively pretty, but very elegant in a minimalist sort of way. I'm pretty happy with how mine looks[1], for example. Obligatory vim can be pretty too, and I am happy with how mine looks. http://i.imgur.com/ZC2xDxH.png On a related note, I like how my terminal vim looks better than how the GUI looks. I don't use emacs much, but same goes for emacs.

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Re: Just Use Sublime Text

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Post by ygra »

tracker1 wrote: post #87
ozataman wrote: post #41

1. I like learning new tools and I got pretty good at vim's 10-15 fundamental commands in probably a couple of weeks. I was certainly OK, albeit a bit slow, by day 2 or so. 2. By the end of month 1-2, vim had become completely second nature. I did stuff without thinking. Actually, thinking about what I was doing started to confuse me. 3. Sure we all spend lots of time thinking, but I also often find myself cranking o…

I have to agree with TFA here... I just don't see the point, and never have. When I'm in an editor, I mainly want to type, and have what I type go in where I type it... I like pico/nano over vi/vim/emacs. I like sublime, but a lot of functionality is only keyboard accessible, and I haven't take n the time to learn hot keys... why I would really love is having my editor, and a couple command/console prompts in the sam…

> I would really love is having my editor, and a couple command/console prompts in the same UI.

OFMs like Far Manager, Midnight Commander or similar might fill that niche. Far does for me, at least and I tend to spend my time editing code either there, in VS or Eclipse, depending on the language and project. But it's more a file manager with an editor (which needs a few plugins to be used for coding) than an editor with a command line.

Re: Just Use Sublime Text

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Post by davorb »

catenate wrote: post #72
msutherl wrote: post #31

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As somebody who recently switched from Vim to SublimeText, I agree and disagree with much in the article, but the point about the mouse is interesting. For years I believed that eschewing the mouse was speeding me up. But I recently had the pleasure of working with a fine gentleman, and a SublimeText user, who is an absolute fiend with the mouse. He has considerably more development experience than I, so it is not an…

In my experience (11 years with Emacs, then 8 years with Wily/Acme-SAC/Acme) using the mouse is much more efficient than typing to move the cursor and select text. Acme takes it a step further by binding cut and paste to mouse chords. Guide files are the big win, though, since I edit and reissue commands (highlight and middle-click) instead of retyping them.

Do you use C-r/C-s to move around? That's what I do and I think that using the keyboard is a bit faster.

The difference is probably negligible, though.

Re: Just Use Sublime Text

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Post by nicholassmith »

This sums up basically every problem I had with vim. It's great, but it took significantly less time to get up and running and productive with Sublime. I know people who are the exact opposite and took to vim like a duck to water.

Upside is at least we have two great editors now.

Re: Just Use Sublime Text

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Post by sanityinc »

nnq wrote: post #117
ebbv wrote: post #25

Am I the only person in the world who: a) Never thought vim was that hard to learn (and I first learned it when I was a teenager and nobody helped me. I switched when someone on a MUD made fun of me for using pico.) and b) Thinks vanilla vim works just fine. Seriously my vimrc is like 10 lines long and I don't even have it on every server I work on. I don't bother with any plugins. I don't need vim integrated with gi…

> what kind of medication the OP stopped taking The OP has a really "sane" take on things imho (yes, it's incredibly opinionated , but it's blog post featured on HN, not a SO question someone like you can close in minute :) - and I'm glad he bothered to write it, as I'd probably just send the link to it to any newbies asking me about "the magical vim" instead of bothering to tell them what I think) and he's right on…

> eg. arbitrary multiple cursors (no other IDE or editor besides Notedpad++ has them yet

Emacs support for multiple cursors is also available: https://github.com/magnars/multiple-cursors.el

Re: Just Use Sublime Text

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Post by EwanToo »

trowftd wrote: post #128
nnq wrote: post #117

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> what kind of medication the OP stopped taking The OP has a really "sane" take on things imho (yes, it's incredibly opinionated , but it's blog post featured on HN, not a SO question someone like you can close in minute :) - and I'm glad he bothered to write it, as I'd probably just send the link to it to any newbies asking me about "the magical vim" instead of bothering to tell them what I think) and he's right on…

Notepad++ is good enough until you need to do a regex search that includes new lines in it.

True, but in extended search and replace mode you can handle newlines without goo much hassle, it's just not in the standard regex option

Re: Just Use Sublime Text

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Post by cjh_ »

griffordson wrote: post #79
cjh_ wrote: post #52

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Similar story for me, I'm 21 and due to bad computer and mousing habits I have quite nasty RSI/OOS in my wrists. Switching to an ergonomic mechanical keyboard (kinesis advantage) and a keyboard-heavy workflow (vim) allows me to work as a developer. I can tell how often I resort to using the mouse each day by the pain when I get home (I have a trackball on my left hand side and a touchpad on my right hand side to try…

My current development machine is running Linux with Xmonad (Vim keybinds). I run console Vim inside Tmux (vim keybinds). I run Vimium in Chrome. I have also remapped the caps lock key to CTRL in every OS I use (all of them) to avoid reaching for the CTRL key. I've also retrained myself to use C^[ for ESC rather than remapping "," or something else. C^[ works in a lot of places too, so that is a nice bonus. I can usu…

Thank you for that insight, glad to hear that you are able to comfortably use a computer :)

As much as I wish you weren't in pain, it is a little comforting to know that there are others in a similar situation.

The main advantage of the kinesis for me is all the buttons around the thumbs and the fact it supports remapping from the device itself, so that whenever I am feeling pain I move keys around to alleviate it (often moving keys away from pinkies and towards the thumbs if I find myself using them often).

I have a windows,alt,ctrl and tab key under each thumb. Shift and backspace under the left, right and space under the right.

On my laptop I have capslock as esc but this doesn't help too much as my pinkies are quite painful to use after a while.

I use dwm, set -o vi for most of my terminals, and pentadactyl in firefox.

Haven't heard of Vimium; I have been looking for a Chrome equivalent as I prefer it as a browser, pentadactyl is nice but it has the issue that it currently doesn't support the use of ctrl-c which drives me insane.

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