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Re: No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app

#132
Personally I'm more of the opinion "I'm not going to read your bullshit news at all". In arguments like this I see many people debating the finer details of App design etc. when the real question is why do we even need this product (news) at all! Part of the answer is also the answer to this article.. because everyone else does it.

I think it's a shame more people don't see the mainstream news, in App form, print, TV or whatever, as the farcical waste of time that it is. I guess it makes some of us feel a bit more important to be 'in the loop'.

It's been debated many times before so I won't go into it again, just thought I'd inject a bit of big-picture perspective.

Re: No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app

#133
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're popular with people who take the subway. Think about it, you're sitting there for half an hour with no service. An app that pre-downloads all of a newspaper's stories is handy and easy to use.

What? No coverage in subway? You must live in Sahara.

Or London six months ago...

Re: No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app

#134

It's not an entirely false rant but how can you take an author who writes this seriously: "Dear Lisp programmers: Microsoft have implemented the mixing of code and data, like you asked for. Only, they’ve called it ‘Word Macros’. Enjoy." ?

Because sometimes the author is having a laugh.

Re: No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app

#136
Apps are basically fancy bookmarks with native code abilities and local state (including dreaded settings), as well as notifications.

I try to have as few apps as possible on my device. I use the website version of many things, even if that provides a slightly inferior experience, just because it outweighs the disadvantage of having to dl a app for every little thing.

A future I hope to see one day is an open OS with downloadable 3rd party "functionality" that expands the abilities of the OS, and apps (basically functionality + crafted experience forced into one) fade to background.

Re: No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app

#137
> If you are on Android, be sure to install some anti-adware software in case the app comes with some delightful bit of creepy privacy-intruding out-of-app advertising.

Can we please stop perpetuating this myth? Adware is not a problem on Android unless you are downloading fake versions of apps or cracked apps.

Re: No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app

#138

And most apps require permissions that have very little to do with the purpose of the app. Here's what the BBC news reader for Android wants: THIS APPLICATION HAS ACCESS TO THE FOLLOWING: HARDWARE CONTROLS CHANGE YOUR AUDIO SETTINGS Allows the app to modify global audio settings such as volume and which speaker is used for output. NETWORK COMMUNICATION FULL NETWORK ACCESS Allows the app to create network sockets and…

That's why you are better off with Android + Opera and change your user agent for Desktop. It is a not perfect solution but works.

I use Chrome for iOS's "Request Desktop Site" feature so much. Very useful on my iPad mini (my only mobile device).

Re: No, I'm not going to download your bullshit app

#140

I agree for the most part with this article. I think the major problem is that apps are being developed that offer absolutely no advantage over viewing the website in a browser - in fact many offer disadvantages. This is what happens when a market crowded with some shockingly bad app developers is combined with ignorant executive mandates that companies must have apps simply to be able to say that they have them.

We've been conditioned to want apps. Or... many people have. iPhone is synonymous with 'apps'. My grandmother understands 'apps' (well, mostly!)

I was on a project last year, and we built a mobile website (could work in iPhone/Android and probably winphone, but we didn't test). Got a lot of immediate "yeah that's great" from some people. Partners reached out for potential customers/sales - every single one returned with "where do I get the app".

Us: "http://foobarsite.com.

Them: "Cool, but I can't see where to download the app!"

Us: "You don't - you just go to the website"

Them: "But I need an app!"

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