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Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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Where I live, an sms app is not very important. It's almost exclusively used for two factor authentication messages. Everyone uses WhatsApp, signal, telegram etc, even businesses and services. So having a bare bones aosp messaging app was never an issue for me. Having said that, I find fossify messages pretty good. Will try out the new GOS app too.

All of fossify's apps I've tried have been better than the stock apps.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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post #26

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What's so difficult about implementing RCS from a technical perspective?

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117225561294973728

Thanks! I noticed on one of my phones that RCS breaks once the Messages app is out of date by a certain amount of revisions. I hope this is an arbitrary decision by Google to invalidate older versions, given that the RCS protocol hasn't changed. I wouldn't want the Graphene team to have to keep up with each change Google makes with their Messages app, and instead is a security oversight Google has found in their own app.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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The overwhelming majority of consumers just prefer larger screens (myself included). People seem to forget that Apple releasing the Mini was them listening to the minority and the sales numbers if it were poor versus the rest of the lineup. And why would Meta even do that?

Or maybe the majority of people buying a new damn phone every other week just prefer it'd be a tablet

Just today I giggled and reminisced over the old XDA Developers Nexus 7 posts about LTE and wifi calling hacks…the many few of us worked hard to only rely on a tablet! Ironically, there is now not a second of my day in which id find a folding phone useful or logistically feasible. Alas…13 years too late.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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post #82
post #56

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also I think RCS is way to insecure for Graphene OS - they have no way of making sure the communication is actually 100% secure. In my experience, Graphene OS doesn't make compromises.

Why would they support SMS then?

The world unfortunately uses SMS for 2FA.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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One feature I just found out about after trying it is that you can text email addresses. Unfortunately I think that feature is shutting down. https://www.verizon.com/support/vtext-vzwpix-shutdown/ I'm still waiting until RCS is supported before I actually use it.

It's probably for the best. As recently as 2016 (and probably more recently; that's just the last time I tested this), they weren't even validating SPF records on their email-to-SMS gateway. You could spoof the "From" address to any email address you fancied and your messages would go through, appearing to be from that sender. Back in high school, my childish self had a field day showing off my phone's SMS inbox filled up with spam Viagra ads that were "sent by" Hillary Clinton's "hacked" email server.

It's not as funny in hindsight, given the unexpected results of that election, but at the time, it felt like top-tier humor.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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post #48

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I would imagine the cross section of people who seek out GOS but would settle for Postmarket OS is nearly non existent.

Then you have poor imagination. People seek Graphene OS for many many reasons.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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post #73
post #46

I wish they prioritised the call app. It is beyond appalling. You can't even determine when a call happened, beyond the generic low fidelity "[time] ago". It also almost feels like tapping anything makes me accidentally call people. Abhorrent UI/UX to be completely honest.

This is completely false. Tap the call, tap "call details" and its there. Took be 2 second to disprove. This is lazy to the point of being seemingly malicious commentary.

I agree with parent. When I tap the icon/picture on the history it should pull up the contact not call. I also find the need to click into a submenu for context bad UI.

Your comment is unnecessarily inflammatory.

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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post #5

With a seemingly insurmountable workload - maintain an actually secure OS fork - for a small team, I wonder how GrapheneOS prioritizes things like messaging apps? I'm not saying it's wrong at all; I am just interested in the thinking inside a project like that. I can imagine many reasons to devote resources to it: * A platform is only as good as its apps. If they want to grow GOS in the general public, it requires a…

GrapheneOS has made a big push to hire a bunch of experienced, talented app devs, and they have been slowly chipping away at Messaging for a few months. They now have the resources to take on the AOSP apps and resume with the GrapheneOS apps. The rest of the AOSP apps are also planned to be overhauled. They also plan to eventually support RCS in the Messaging app.

> GrapheneOS has made a big push to hire a bunch of experienced, talented app devs

That's great. How can a FOSS project afford that? Where does GOS money come from? Did Daniel win the lottery?

Re: GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released

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post #88

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Simple. Fairphone doesn't want GOS. Forking GOS and porting it to a new device is a huge and unreasonable ask for an individual user. Even less so when you include the fact that you'll need to keep it up to date.

Why? Because of drivers? Don’t they already have Linux drivers for the fairphone? I wonder if fable or astra could wire everything up.

As a company that often lies, they won’t spend a single penny on this.
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