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Thinking about whether a web architecture will hold up for 100 years is bikeshedding, is bikeshedding as well
calling thinking about bikeshedding, bikeshedding, is peak bikeshedding.
bikeshed
Htmx 4.0
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One of the things that is great about htmx (besides being the best library) is the lack of modern silicon valley corpo communication. It has the slightly unhinged feel of a nerd that spent too much time on Newgrounds or 4chan or something awful. Which is how the internet aught to be.
> unhinged Please take a look at the official documentation for htmx, which specifically clarifies that the author owns many hinges.
Re: Htmx 4.0
#133I really like htmx, and intercooler.js before it. It's been a while since I tried to convince a co-worker to use it, it might be time to try again. Either way I can't wait to try out the new version. Full Disclosure, I am CEO of HTMX
Given the number of people claiming to be CEO of HTMX, I have to ask: what’s the joke I’m missing?
You seem to have it!
Re: Htmx 4.0
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I agree. We are moving away from HTMX at work, to React. (After we moved away from Angular. That was…a choice…that I didn’t make.) Here’s the thing: there’s still a place for HTMX. Lots of places. But “building an SPA but not actually and SPA” is not a lane for HTMX. Nor do they promote HTMX for that purpose. Really quite the opposite. Different tools for different jobs. (Me? I honestly love React, just a more minima…
Yeah, typically I end up building websites (for myself and others) in basically three "lanes". Static HTML/CSS files, great for docs, presentations, reports and similar. Or, websites with some interactive/dynamic elements, HTMX is great for this. Or, fully fledged "client-side apps" where it's more of an application than website, then I go full out dynamic programming with ClojureScript and similar approaches. I'm no…
Ha, that was me and Hugo, back in the day, for static sites.
And, yeah, HTMX is truly great for sites with limited interactivity. You really, really do not want or need a full React Leaning Tower of Pisa stack for a simple presentational website.
Re: Htmx 4.0
#136The site is very broken on my iPhone safari. If I click an an anchor reference at the very top (“LLM” let’s say) and try to scroll down because it doesnt link me to the content, it keeps snapping me back to the top after a second.
Re: Htmx 4.0
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100 years, sure, but 10 years? Definitely not bike shedding, I'd hope your website can stay up for 10 years at least.
You don’t need to agonize over a library choice to know that your site will be up for 10 years. If it outputs web standards, the browser engines will make sure it is.
Yes, unless you choose wrong, which is what we're talking about, as sometimes choosing right is worth the bike shedding.
Re: Htmx 4.0
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#139I found Htmx to be a great combo with agent driven development. It lets you end-to-end test the UI without a full headless browser by just examing the HTML, which means UI tests are cheap and fast, which means you can have tons of them. And coding agents are exactly as good as your test coverage. So with Htmx they're great .
Well, if someone is going to vibe code they don't have enough background on searching a good tool. They'll just ask LLM and LLM defaults to a Javascript based thing
Re: Htmx 4.0
#140Congrats and thanks! htmx brings me joy. Pretty much every experiment I build now starts with Go, htmx, and SQLite to keep things simple and fast but still responsive. I put a few more thoughts about this here: https://housecat.com/blog/the-hugs-stack-hypermedia-unix-go-...
i use this stack quite a bit too. i made the claude do some load bearing 360 backflips, gate and seam a whole buncha smoking guns, and bolt go-starlark on top of this so i can just declare little web apps like its streamlit but it doesn't feel sucky like streamlit. i get to just write little blurbs of python-looking code and i get these fully reactive tools. probably my favorite and most used abstraction that came from too much wine and lazy boredom. also built stupid simple framework ish coverage for connections and duckdb and a few other things.