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Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Also, if you use Orion Browser, they did implement the full Manifest v2 extension spec on top of WebKit, which lets you use full uBlock origin directly.

Does that really matter if virtually no one is going to develop extensions according to the Manifest v2 spec? Developing for that spec means your extension is incompatible with idk, 98% of the browser market?

Well, uBlock will maintain support, and Orion also supports Manifest v3

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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This is the kind of “better internet” I want. Compared with ads, I’d much rather have a 0.05 dollar paywall. But for this to work, the technology has to be built on crypto micropayments. The total cost and friction of traditional payment systems, including online payment services like PayPal, would make this impossible. I think this is also one of the design goals behind Web3 and Project Xanadu. https://en.wikipedia.…

crypto is a solution in search of a problem.

If you live in a developing country and frequently make or receive cross-border payments in currencies other than USD, you’ll understand that's not the case. The fees and compliance burden of traditional financial system still represent a huge cost in cross-border trade. These costs kill micropayments.

I’m bullish on oracles and cryptography-secured monetary systems.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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FYI uBlock Origin Lite on iOS is inferior to AdGuard and (I think) Wipr as it's just a WebExtension, so it'll only block ads within Safari itself. AdGuard and Wipr use both the Web Extension and Content Blocker APIs, so they'll block ads in all web views system wide on top of within Safari itself. However as far as trustworthiness goes, uBlock is (imo) #1.

wBlock by an MIT student is open source and seems (just!) about as trustworthy as uBlock, though of course without the track record. Light & fast, especially to update. “wBlock runs entirely within Safari's content blocking API. There's no data collection, no tracking, and no system-level extensions that can monitor your browsing.“ https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wblock/id6746388723 / GH: https://github.com/0xCUB3/wBlo…

No offense to the author, but I don't trust a college kid the same way I trust the team behind uBlock. The latter have a well-established track record with substantial external eyes (including Firefox directly.)

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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good time to remember firefox mobile (specially ios) does not have reproducible builds!

on android, f-doid fennec and all other forks do! it's not even hard, so in my view this "is a feature" for mozilla.

then, further remember one person from the board was involved in AdBlock extension who charged firms 1mi to "whitelist good ads". my emoloyer at the time paid under a nda.

still better than nothing (and who am i kidding? 99% here chose to use chrome on their main machine)

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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> it's got all the limitations of Manifest V3 which prevents it from doing a good bit of blocking The only mainstream browser left that can still run the full version of uBlock Origin is Firefox. All the others have the same limitations imposed by Manifest V3.

iOS Firefox the same though.

Thanks Apple for inflicting the Safari monopoly to all iOS users.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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What's the current excuse for not supporting extensions on iOS? Orion on iOS does and it's the reason I dropped FF ages ago.

Apple themselves do not allow using anything other than WebKit unless you move to the EU or Japan: https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engi... Firefox addons target gecko, not webkit. What Orion's doing is horribly hacky and prone to cause issues with a multitude of addons, and of course Mozilla shouldn't bow to Apple's incredibly anti-competitive behavior. You pay apple for a phone that can act m…

We need laws that make Apple's business model illegal. No more walled gardens, including game consoles. If you sell a Universal Machine (or product containing a Universal Machine), then the owner/purchaser/leasee must have full control of the Universal Machine.

Just like the laws against bad cars are called "Lemon Laws," call these new laws against bad Universal Machines "Apple Laws." Forever memorialize AAPL in this negative light to warn its future successors what happens when you act in anti-customer ways even when technically not illegal to do so.

By the same logic, we could also use "Anthropic Laws" to curb the nanny-moralism of model guardrails too!

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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> Ads shown on search engine results pages, including Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo and other search providers There are many subpar adblockers available both built into browsers on iOS and as extensions. uBlock Origin Lite for Safari remains the best mobile adblocker on iOS, I suppose.

Search result ads are some of the most harmful ads, and Google's ads in particular are probably the number one cause of fraud, scams, and malware on the entire planet. It's a shame that Firefox whitelisted these, but I'm sure they did it both because Google pays for their existence but also Apple themselves probably wagged their finger for some reason.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Technically, Firefox Focus (a separate browser for iOS) includes an adblocker feature that can be applied system wide via iOS's content blockers subsystem. This was released in the late 2010s. Firefox including it is likely just reducing the steps required.

How do you do this? Straight up don’t know what the “content blocker subsystem” is ha

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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It’s okay if you’re in a healthy market with many competitive choices. It’s not okay if you’re a duopoly where over 95% of people buy your product as a prerequisite to functioning in modern society.

Their approach yielded arguably the least exploitable general purpose computing devices that people ever actually wanted, without making people feel they were crippled, in a market where there are thousands of alternatives. It's been wildly successful and, like nearly everyone, I'm fine it.

>without making people feel they were crippled

I view Apple platform as crippling, and Google jealously trying to [slowly] pursue the same cripple model. Just because most customers are not educated enough to see the crippling aspects, doesn't mean it's not there. Sleek shiny-ness tends to hide that for normies.

Disclosure: proud GrapheneOS and Qubes OS user and never-subscriber.

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