What was preventing them from calling it v4.1-Flash to distinguish it better?
DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update
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Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update
#132Where do you guys get deepseek? I'm hearing a lot of good reviews and want to try it with my pi config. from the deeepseek themselves, openrouter, or anywhere else? does it make a difference? [edit]: whoa it is really fast. will take some time to evaluate quality thou
Opencode-go gives you $60 worth of DS V4 api usage for $10 per month. Right now I think it's hard to exhaust that when using flash exclusively, and plain API use might even be cheaper! Anyway, for DS usage it's a good deal.
Opencode also have a ZDR (zero data retention) deal with them – if I recall correctly, that's not something you can enable as an individual DeepSeek subscriber.
Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update
#133Where do you guys get deepseek? I'm hearing a lot of good reviews and want to try it with my pi config. from the deeepseek themselves, openrouter, or anywhere else? does it make a difference? [edit]: whoa it is really fast. will take some time to evaluate quality thou
I use it directly: https://platform.deepseek.com/usage
3rd party providers on OpenRouter can be cheaper but it's already so cheap.
Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update
#134Note: if you are having success with a model, then please post what you are using it for. Writing HTML/CSS is very different from writing Rust/C++ or doing maths.
Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not also Qwen?
Qwen/Alibaba have stopped doing open weights releases for a while. No grudge or anything, I'm certainly not going to look at a gift horse in the mouth, but both DeepSeek and Moonshot have been very consistent with open weights as well as sharing actually detailed research. In terms of open research, China has absolutely overtaken the US.
Qwen has a pinned tweet stating that 3.8 will be released as open weights soon. I guess it remains to be seen, though, if they’ll do the smaller model sizes or only the big 2.4T one.
Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update
#136Where do you guys get deepseek? I'm hearing a lot of good reviews and want to try it with my pi config. from the deeepseek themselves, openrouter, or anywhere else? does it make a difference? [edit]: whoa it is really fast. will take some time to evaluate quality thou
Opencode-go gives you $60 worth of DS V4 api usage for $10 per month. Right now I think it's hard to exhaust that when using flash exclusively, and plain API use might even be cheaper! Anyway, for DS usage it's a good deal.
To add to this, the $60 only applies to DeepSeek-V4-Flash and a few other models. For DeepSeek-V4-Pro, the amount is $15.
https://opencode.ai/docs/go/#usage-limits
Previously, OpenCode Go had higher API prices for some models, but now they lowered the API price and simultaneously reduced the allowance.
Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update
#137This may come as a surprise to a lot of AI concerns, but I have -zero- interest in paying for a model.
Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update
#138Where do you guys get deepseek? I'm hearing a lot of good reviews and want to try it with my pi config. from the deeepseek themselves, openrouter, or anywhere else? does it make a difference? [edit]: whoa it is really fast. will take some time to evaluate quality thou
I used it through openrouter. Plugged in to the vs code copilot bring your own key thing. Played around for a few hours and used up 80 cents of tokens.
Anecdotal data from my own tests: allow only one provider if you want good cache usage on OR. 80 cents is probably 4x the price you should have paid.
Providers' cache hit stats are available to consult, and only 1-2 of them behave properly if I remember correctly, zero if you request providers that don't store and train on sessions.
Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Opencode-go gives you $60 worth of DS V4 api usage for $10 per month. Right now I think it's hard to exhaust that when using flash exclusively, and plain API use might even be cheaper! Anyway, for DS usage it's a good deal.
Opencode also have a ZDR (zero data retention) deal with them – if I recall correctly, that's not something you can enable as an individual DeepSeek subscriber.
Unfortunately, all mentions of ZDR have silently been removed from the OpenCode Go page today.
Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update
#140Note: if you are having success with a model, then please post what you are using it for. Writing HTML/CSS is very different from writing Rust/C++ or doing maths.
I've been having better-than-most performance using qwen3.6 to write python/flask.
I tried using it to generate some rust code yesterday, and it generated much code but only ever came within 1 error of a testable build. The 4th or 5th full rewrite is sitting in the buffer right now.
I'm currently looking to up my game with Bottlecap AI's return of qwen3.6, 'thinking cap'.
Alleged to be twice as fast and superior at coding over extended sessions (vs. 3.6).
We'll soon see.