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Future euro banknote design proposals

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Re: Future euro banknote design proposals

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Post by yeahforsureman »

ahartmetz wrote: post #120
zokier wrote: post #109

A) Front is nice, but I can't get over the shadow people in the backside B) The most boring of the options. The tiny text with the bird facts should not be there. C) Corporate hellscape. D) wtf are those hands doing here E) Again fronts look better than backs; fronts are very traditional bank-note to me. F) Most interesting option. Certainly feels different than any other bank note I recall. G) Ugh random vector shap…

I like the ones you find boring (but not the corporate Memphis ones) - money is a serious matter, so it's IMO supposed to look serious and a little boring.

+1 for boring!

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Post by jillesvangurp »

ketzu wrote: post #44
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #36

So many of these have some building as the backdrop, but all the buildings are modernist skyscrapers and uninspired office buildings Europe doesn't have a dearth of stunning architecture. Have they all been discarded in favor of ugly straightline modernist sloptitecture because they might be construed as offensive for some reason?

> but all the buildings are modernist skyscrapers and uninspired office buildings Because they are the european institutions, eg the EU parliament building, EU comission, etc. They are mostly office buildings.

Brutalist buildings in Brussels. Not a great choice for a continent with 2000+ years of very rich architecture history.

Re: Future euro banknote design proposals

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Post by lava_pidgeon »

abc123abc123 wrote: post #41
vrganj wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an Austrian, it feels a bit annoying that the Germans got their one famous composer - they're kind of our thing! Why not Mozart, Strauss, Haydn, Schubert? It's also unfortunate that the nice peaceful bird motif was paired with the ugly modern buildings on the other side.

Don't you worry. This is a political process and politicians are basically big children, so no country will ever accept notes without someone famous from their country on the note. So al will be watered down to abstract art or animals in the end, so that the suggestion with the least amount of friction gets accepted. Like all decision in democracy, it is not about finding the best solution, it's about the solution wi…

" Like all decision in democracy, it is not about finding the best solution, it's about the solution with the least nr of votes against it. That is why democracy never works in the long term, because it is a long, drawn out, trip to the bottom. "

Working democracies are the countries with most livable places on Earth..this includes many countries in Europe.

Re: Future euro banknote design proposals

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Post by bostik »

tialaramex wrote: post #81
hinata08 wrote: post #23

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I don't like to have silhouettes instead of people on the back, and that buildings related to the current institutions are featured on so many designs These are a current necessities, but nothing to sanctuarize for the future. The only thing that should remain stable in Europe are ideas, and the Swiss got it better on their notes

> These are a current necessities, but nothing to sanctuarize for the future. Although the ECB does not today "withdraw" notes in the sense that they cease to be valid for most purposes, it does deliberately destroy old notes and issue new ones with different images to replace them, so the original series must be getting pretty rare by now - not rare enough to be worth serious collectors paying money for it, but your…

> deliberately destroy old notes and issue new ones with different images to replace them

Big part of the reason for this appears to be security. Many years ago a high-ranking official from Finnish central bank told in an interview that bank notes need to be redesigned approximately once per decade. Reason is that it takes about that long for the materials and printing technology to get commoditised enough for criminal enterprises to be able to start manufacturing "high-grade" forgeries at any real scale.

Every generation of bank notes employs a whole bunch of newly developed technologies and tricks that make the notes themselves distinctive, as well as incredibly difficult[ß] to forge.

ß: Some of it is down to tightly locked down and guarded speciality supply chains. Some is due to advances in microprinting and ilk. If you had unlimited resources, you could arrange to have the necessary equipment, supplies, staff and materials to print your own forged money. It'd just be slow, low-yield and very expensive.

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Post by seszett »

ncruces wrote: post #102
mytailorisrich wrote: post #38

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That's exactly why they are a better choice, like the imaginary bridges on current Euro banknotes. The selection of people is also quite poor but that's because people are a poor choice: Most notable historical people are very linked to specific countries, often against other countries so picking neutral ones is hard. They also clearly decided to have an equal number of men and women, which makes it even harder. Obvi…

Exactly. Faces are a terrible idea for a common currency shared by 21 countries. You have to pick one writer, good that the English left for good so Shakespeare's out, but how do the French feel about Cervantes vs. Victor Hugo? The Poles complaining that they didn't get enough recognition because Marie Curie's maiden name isn't given enough prominence should tell you all there is to know about this being a good idea.

> how do the French feel about Cervantes vs. Victor Hugo?

I don't think anybody would mind since there's already Marie Curie, which is an obvious choice because she's both Polish and French. I don't know how the Polish take it but the French have no particular feelings about her being Polish as well.

Re: Future euro banknote design proposals

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Post by Markoff »

I would refrain from using people considering some of them may (become) controversial or are controversial depending on a country, there will never be agreement on someone who is not controversial at all and after all each country can use them on their coins if they feel the urge.

The birds idea is good, I like:

B - nice realistic

D/I/J - don't like vertical design (though I like colorful birds in J)

H - the most beautiful work of art, it would be my choice

Btw. why not use more designs at same time? I like Hong Kong approach to currency design (multiple commercial banks issue the banknotes under government regulation, three authorized banks—HSBC, Standard Chartered Bank, and Bank of China—design and print their own notes for daily use, while the government issues coins and the $10 note).

And very controversial idea, but this would be more suitable for national currency and not for eurozone - use banknotes as ad space companies can purchase, but it would have to be very very very costly space for country's budget to benefit from this. Though I like the idea of paying Pepsi with Coca Cola banknote.

Re: Future euro banknote design proposals

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Post by sparqlittlestar »

haunter wrote: post #79
tacker2000 wrote: post #76

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Bertha von Suttner on the 200 EUR is Austrian

I've never seen a 200€ note irl (and not the no more printed but still legal tender 500€ either)

I onve saw a €500 note when I was exchanging guilders at the fentral bank and asked if I could see one. They showed me, from behind the glass. It's big
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