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Re: The End: NZBMatrix closes

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Post by Terretta »

cookiecaper wrote: post #113
tptacek wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NET act criminalizes any willful "copyright infringement" (the term used in the act) so long as it's done for financial gain. Contributory or vicarious liability for copyright infringement for linking is well established. At any rate, services like these rely on the DMCA Safe Harbor provision. Regardless of whether the potential liability is civil or criminal, you can't have actual knowledge of infringing activit…

What about Google? They make a copy of almost every image on the internet with the full knowledge that they are nearly all covered under an absolute copyright license of "All Rights Reserved", including the right to store and rehost a copy of that content. How would Google's financial outlook change if they decide to follow the letter of the law and never use pieces of copyrighted works "for financial gain" without e…

> It seems to me that the only difference between Google and NZBMatrix et al is that the media companies NEED one more than the other.

Re: The End: NZBMatrix closes

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Post by cookiecaper »

dsl wrote: post #126
cookiecaper wrote: post #36

Would be nice if they would a) publish their code and b) upload their nzb database on Pirate Bay. Would make it much easier for someone to pick up the torch.

NZBs die pretty quickly, so a back catalog wouldn't be that useful. They even mention on the website that content is getting taken down faster than NZBs can be updated.

I've used NZBs that were 3+ years old and they've mostly worked fine. Occasionally blocks are missing, which of course is more likely the older an NZB gets, but most of the catalog is still together.

They're right that many providers are getting hit with notices, which causes them to remove a few chunks of each rar from their server making it impossible to complete the download and too pervasive for repair by typically-sized parity file, but this can be circumvented by using a lesser-known news server as a backup; you still use Astraweb or Giganews for 99% of the transfer, but your fallback picks up the pieces that have been DMCA'd out of AW/GN/another major carrier.

I would be happy to see a more intelligent splitting system than rars, as one missing block in a couple of rars will often make it really difficult to extract the content you DO have and use a more robust delivery system, like a torrent, to download the blocks you're missing. This is going to become increasingly important.

News servers are interesting because they really are a non-optimal method for this kind of transfer that has incidentally become a hot bed for filesharers, probably just because of the plausible deniability ("yes officer, of course we only intend our server to be used by those discussing photography..."). I too wonder if it's not time for a new protocol, something more direct than torrents (webseeds kinda works here, but not quite what I'm looking for) but less hacked-up than NZBs and ASCII-encoded binaries in split files.

It's time to stop skirting around the issue and try to put together a serious underground analog to direct-downloaded binaries, something hearty and immune, or as immune as possible, to interference and foul play like this.

Re: The End: NZBMatrix closes

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Post by voltagex_ »

nicksterling wrote: post #115
voltagex_ wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give an example?

Here's one from a.b.boneless... "2TU4K75C6Z" (45 rars, 9 pars) And here's one from a.b.multimedia... "DTTBiAp23.101.by.NYCrules" (14 rars, 11 pars) no .nfo included and no way to know what's inside. Does anybody know how people are decoding these titles into meaningful information?

Sorry it took me a while to get back to you.

The first one is passworded, presumably detected by looking at the RAR header.

I can't find the second.

Re: The End: NZBMatrix closes

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Post by voltagex_ »

nicksterling wrote: post #120
nicksterling wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's one from a.b.boneless... "2TU4K75C6Z" (45 rars, 9 pars) And here's one from a.b.multimedia... "DTTBiAp23.101.by.NYCrules" (14 rars, 11 pars) no .nfo included and no way to know what's inside. Does anybody know how people are decoding these titles into meaningful information?

Here's one from a.b.cheerleaders... "291112_08_29" (60 rars) There are lots of these and they are interesting because the first part suggests a date, 29/11/12, and the second part suggests a sequential number. The size is almost 6 gig.

Aaaaand I'm glad I didn't look that one up on the work PC. I'm assuming you can get the filename info by looking at either the RAR headers or the first archive.

Re: The End: NZBMatrix closes

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Post by emehrkay »

spudlyo wrote: post #85
emehrkay wrote: post #83

Open source the code. Id gladly run my own private nzbmatrix

Feel free. http://newznab.readthedocs.org/en/latest/

I got this running btw. Thanks again.

Just a heads up for whoever wants to do the same: the process that it goes through to create the releases is that it downloads all of the binaries and parts and then runs that through a few regular expressions to determine what goes with what and how it should be categorized and displayed. The free community edition only ships with two regular expressions and it wasnt creating releases for me. I donated to the project and got a lot of regexes plus some other stuff and now it works as expected.

I'll be building a box to handle this in my home.

Re: The End: NZBMatrix closes

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Post by foobarqux »

cookiecaper wrote: post #121
foobarqux wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do not do this. The Tor network cannot handle that kind of traffic.

The site is just text transmission, like torrents. Your connection to the news server would not have to be piped over Tor, just your access to the web interface where you download text files telling your news client what to download.

Right, sorry. I misinterpreted the parent.
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