When A.I. is a member of the family

Post by phainopepla2 » Fri, Jul 17, 2026, 7:46 PM UTC

embedding-shape wrote: post #121

phainopepla2 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gossip is a hugely important part of how a community constitutes itself. Without gossip, you don't even have a community. Of course, it can go in malicious and destructive directions as well

I think you're confusing "gossip" for "communication". You don't have to have gossip to have a community, but what you say is perfectly true if you replace it with "communication".

Respectfully, I am not. Communication is so broad as to be meaningless in this context. Can you have a community that communicates via smoke signals alone?

If people don't talk about one other then there is no community. It's a fundamental part of human culture, which has existed in every human society ever recorded, and almost certainly every human society every to exist.

Post by zbentley » Sat, Jul 18, 2026, 8:52 PM UTC

throw45633 wrote: post #94

juleiie wrote: post #90

Every generation doesn’t understand something from the next This is going to be my first sign of being ancient I bet they will make it normal and progressive and stick all sort of politics on top of it. But ultimately I will remain that “bigoted” anti ai aunt rambling to the annoyance and outrage of the newest generation

I’ve seen a lot of sci-fi where AI is some type of multigenerational entity that guides over humanity. It’ll be interesting to see if individual families start to have their own AI that contains generational knowledge. Like taking ancestor worship to the new age, where instead of food offerings, you are offering more RAM and storage.

I guess, but like ... long context/context rot/contextual memory retrieval are still very unsolved problems. If an AI's getting input from multiple family members for years, I have a lot of trouble believing that current LLM technology will ever be able to synthesize ancient information into current conversations.

I think that's a structural defect in AI, not one of those "will be improved by the next batch of models/hardware" things. The distant-memory systems that do exist are fundamentally modeled on topic-based/feature-based retrieval. Assistant-type family AIs will probably work OK with that ("what foods do I hate" is probably reliably retrievable), but interpersonal relationships seem to be very different: rather than retrieving based on feature/fact proximity, a conversation in a long relationship has a very gestalt-ish behavior in that it's informed by lots and lots of distant memories at once. That sounds more like actual training, rather than context/memory/post-training, to me, and current AIs are not set up for that.

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