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An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by cmyk_student »

hilbert42 wrote: post #126
tokai wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GIMP haters needs to be studied. The amount of extreme petty vitriol that project gets is completely out of proportions.

There's good reason why people are annoyed with GIMP/GIMP developers. For example, I used to use GIMP and became quite expert at it and would often swap between it and Photoshop. That changed when GIMP's developers removed the Fade feature (similar functionality as in Photoshop). The result is that they turned a perfectly functional program into a clunky mess that was ergonomically horrible to use. Using it was now l…

Hi! I dug through issue report archives to try and learn more about Fade. From what I understand (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/work_items/3558#note_7...), it seems like it was reimplemented as "Blending Modes" directly in the filters themselves.

If you're willing to test, is that comment correct - do the blending modes for filters work for you like Fade use to? If not, I'd be interested in learning more about what is lacking in the current version. Thanks!

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by rmunn »

robocat wrote: post #125
rurp wrote: post #124

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That's the public sales pitch, sure. In practice it's a way for the company to charge more for the same product and quality usually declines faster than non-SaaS software.

I am part owner of a plain SaaS company, and our financial motivation is very very strongly to keep our business customers happy. Churn is highly expensive for us. Churn is even more expensive for growth SaaS companies, due to equity multipliers. I remember working for old-school software companies and the incentives were drastically misaligned in the past before SaaS. Existing customers were treated awfully - new cu…

I suspect large companies vs. small companies is another big part of the problem. What I mean is that in small companies, there's usually only one or two layers between the owner(s) and the lowest-level employees. Which means that usually, everyone making management decisions is well aware of the needs of the company and where the company's profits actually come from. It's (usually!) only in large companies with half-a-dozen (or more) layers between the CEO and the workers that you can end up with the kind of empire-building, turf-guarding management that turns a company sclerotic, and makes decisions like selling off / discontinuing a service that was a key part of what their clients needed.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by SanjayMehta »

jkestner wrote: post #92
SanjayMehta wrote: post #16

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I paid for the entire Affinity suite in one shot, was worried when Canva took over, but glad to say everything's working together just fine.

When you say "everything's working", have you updated since Canva took over? I haven't, after happily paying for the whole suite every time they gave me a chance. Just wary. At some point, not being a profit center for Canva, the app is going to get more exploitative.

The legacy apps have been receiving minor updates along with the new Affinity app.

"Everything is working" was meant to imply my legacy flow as well as the new flow haven't broken at all.

I'm sure that in a year or so Canva will move to a subscription model. Then we'll see.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by mvdtnz »

microflash wrote: post #97
dtagames wrote: post #7

Affinity, mentioned in the article, was acquired by Canva and had its entire UI redone to work just like Photoshop. It's also entirely free with no gotchas.

> It's also entirely free with no gotchas. Not true since it requires you to sign in with Canva account.

Which is entirely free.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by trembolram »

lossyalgo wrote: post #112
trembolram wrote: post #74

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> It's also entirely free with no gotchas. I'm running Affinity Studio on my Mac. Every time I run it, Little Snitch shows that it is transferring data to many servers, such as serifservices.com, canva.com, onetrust.com, amazonaws.com, sentry.io, .. I've tried to set privacy preferences to maximum, but it hasn't helped. Am I the product? The old Affinity Designer 1 doesn't send any data to servers, so I'm still using…

Does it still work when you block all outgoing connections?

Yes, but I don't want to start tweaking my firewall to run it.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by ozzymuppet »

S0und wrote: post #81
dtagames wrote: post #7

Affinity, mentioned in the article, was acquired by Canva and had its entire UI redone to work just like Photoshop. It's also entirely free with no gotchas.

Affinity would be a great clone of PS, they copied it up to 90%. But for the last 10%, they were like, you know what? Let's do it in a way that it will make no sense to someone who has used PS for decades. I remember if you wanted to have a transparent background for your file, you had to CREATE the file SPECIFICALLY to have a transparent background. In PS, you just deleted the default white background, and bumm, you…

Agree. Affinity is better than nothing, but has some really really stupid design choices.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

tokai wrote: post #88
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #21

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World would be in a better place if GIMP hadn't ever existed, the existence of GIMP is part of why we don't have an actual viable alternative. Constant claims of "good enough", 20+ years to implement adjustment layers after dismissing their value for many years a team that doesn't really care at all about it. If GIMP had never existed maybe the Blender team or someone else who actually has passion for the problem wou…

GIMP haters needs to be studied. The amount of extreme petty vitriol that project gets is completely out of proportions.

Read the adjustment layer feature request thread from 20+ years ago

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

1313ed01 wrote: post #59
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #21

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World would be in a better place if GIMP hadn't ever existed, the existence of GIMP is part of why we don't have an actual viable alternative. Constant claims of "good enough", 20+ years to implement adjustment layers after dismissing their value for many years a team that doesn't really care at all about it. If GIMP had never existed maybe the Blender team or someone else who actually has passion for the problem wou…

Krita, not GIMP, has been the FOSS flagship 2D bitmap editor for many years, the way Blender is for 3D. Can't remember when I last used GIMP for anything.

Krita is way better, but yeah this is part of the issue GIMP is so established many never suggest Krita. It even passed my mind writing my response.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by DemocracyFTW2 »

cyanydeez wrote: post #10
DemocracyFTW2 wrote: post #9

> Adobe started silently updating my /etc/hosts file This has indeed things like "!!1! MALWARE !!!!" written all over it.

one of the ways to run pirated Photoshop was to blackhole all of Adobe's license servers; so they probably learned from watching their competitors.

I'm not saying they didn't have a good or bad reason to do what they do, what I'm saying is this is akin to paying someone to paint the walls and suddenly you find out they're reconfiguring your smartphone. A tad too intrusive for my taste is what I say.
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