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PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Beat me to it. I am still incredibly salty about losing my “lifetime” license to Minecraft. I really am curious to see some of the changes that have happened since I last played (when still owned by Notch), but I refuse to repurchase it.

> I am still incredibly salty about losing my “lifetime” license to Minecraft. I kept my Minecraft license after migrating to a Microsoft account. Unsure how it got messed up for you.

I didn't lose it per se but it was kind of an ordeal to migrate it from Mojang to MS back then and I had to actually involve support, but in the end it worked.

Have not logged in for years so maybe I have lost it meanwhile ;)

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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what debt does the comapny owe, given his observation that the marginal cost of serving another customer is zero? sure, if they stopped serving them, theyd have a problem, I agree there. But when you try to value the liability here, its surely not very big? Thats what he's saying. Same here with these games. All sony has to do is not delete your games. They still keep your account, and your payment info and a hundred…

Maintenance isn't cost-free. As an example, the operating system and other software dependencies of the game depends will eventually be depreciated and not supported. If a security vulnerability is discovered in software still available from company servers but the teams that built it have moved on, what is the company's liability for recomposing teams in order to make a fix that does not negatively affect other aspe…

right, but if a game no longer works and you don't assign resources to fix it, thats way more understandable than removing access to a game that others can play perfectly fine because your account is old or some other reason

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Whatever you think about Microsoft, they are a good steward of their platforms and go to extremes to maintain backwards compatibility This is the same company that closed its e-book store, and everyone lost the libraries they'd worked so hard to curate.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I recall they did give a full refund when they shut down the ebook platform.

A refund for the price paid.

But life is more than financial transactions. Those people wasted hours and hours curating their personal libraries with books they loved.

Considering how the price and availability of ebooks fluctuates, the refund value is not necessarily equal to the replacement cost, plus more hours finding replacements, if replacements are even available.

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Also have a version purchased back when Notch owned. Not played since and have no access. Oh well.

Pirated and modded scene is the place to be anyway - so I hear.

Modded, yes. The Minecraft mod scene is incredible. The Create mod ecosystem is my favorite.

Pirated? Really? How cheap are you guys? It’s a $30 game with all ~15 years of content updates included.

I’m not trying to be some kind of corporate bootlicker here but I think you have to have apathy toward taking care of the stuff you own to have failed to get your Minecraft license converted from the Mojang account.

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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I don’t know what to say. I went to the migration site, entered my information-no dice. Contacted support and got no assistance. There are others with a similar experience. Microsoft could have gone above and beyond to manage the forced migration. Instead there was a convoluted process which left many cheated. They could have just punted and automatically emailed brand new entitlement codes to all of the original pur…

Also have a version purchased back when Notch owned. Not played since and have no access. Oh well.

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Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Because if enough idiots do it, stupid managers think it's the standard. The EU Commission is unlikely to know anything about their website, it's made by some department that blindly follows a manager's order that just looked at what others did and copied it. We could all have used the DNT header as a bypass when the GPDR came out, and you can still use cookies for non tracking purposes without any banner.

So the EU commission put out a rule that you say has been widely misunderstood and implemented via malicious compliance. Where is the EU statement and education on this? Why aren’t they louder in explaining this isn’t what they wanted? And they allow their own websites to do the very thing that they supposedly don’t want? Do you maybe want to reconsider? Perhaps instead companies are putting in a good faith effort to…

No need for a conspiracy. There was the DNT standard, companies made more money from not taking it into consideration.

That's it.

They chose the annoying banners, then they chose dark patterns on those banners.

It is a choice.

At best they were lazy and greedy. At worse they were malicious.

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Pirated and modded scene is the place to be anyway - so I hear.

Modded, yes. The Minecraft mod scene is incredible. The Create mod ecosystem is my favorite. Pirated? Really? How cheap are you guys? It’s a $30 game with all ~15 years of content updates included. I’m not trying to be some kind of corporate bootlicker here but I think you have to have apathy toward taking care of the stuff you own to have failed to get your Minecraft license converted from the Mojang account.

People get busy... I was building my startup around that time period, and didn't really play games for ~5 years.

Why would I reward a company that already stole from me with another purchase?

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Modded, yes. The Minecraft mod scene is incredible. The Create mod ecosystem is my favorite. Pirated? Really? How cheap are you guys? It’s a $30 game with all ~15 years of content updates included. I’m not trying to be some kind of corporate bootlicker here but I think you have to have apathy toward taking care of the stuff you own to have failed to get your Minecraft license converted from the Mojang account.

People get busy... I was building my startup around that time period, and didn't really play games for ~5 years. Why would I reward a company that already stole from me with another purchase?

If I was too busy building my startup while my Starbucks Frappuccino melted, Starbucks didn’t “steal from me.”

I understand living by your principles but in my experience, the process of running a pirated server/clients is enough of a pain that it’s not worth $30 of anyone’s time, even if it’s the second time you’ve had to pay it in the span of multiple decades.

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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And consumers will cry about it for about 5 minutes, then go back to reward the company. When HP started making printer cartridges that expired even when they were still full, people complained—then bought more. When Microsoft let the web stagnate with IE6, people complained, then turned around and did the same thing with Chrome. When Apple deliberately put a bug in the iPhone that caused the Home button to fail, pus…

I've avoided buying any Lenovo product ever since their SuperFish fiasco. At the beggining it surprised me that people still seriously recommended Lenovo products (even hackers). Now, my brain automatically "adblocks" the entire brand out when I'm looking to buy a new laptop or monitor, as it knows I can't buy it.

Same for me on Lenovo. And likewise, once upon a time ago I told myself I was never going to use another Microsoft product ever again, and I've also mostly stuck to that and even changed jobs over it. Unfortunately, I can't escape github for now but I'm Microsoft free everywhere else at home and at work.

We need more people willing to vote with their wallet over stuff like this.

Re: PlayStation can delete all your digital games after 3 years of inactivity (EU)

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Here here. 100% in agreement, people seem to have forgotten that the majority hold the bargaining power. You'll always have people who cross "strike lines", but by and large if the entire user base simply said; no , and walked; the world would definitely be a better place, in so many ways. I don't hold France as a shining example of humanity; but by-christ if they get upset they actually take those feet, one in front…

There is a strike or demonstration of sorts every other day in France. Or so it seems living there. It’s become so frequent that it has little to no meaning anymore. The government is scared to implement any meaningful change because it’s guaranteed there’ll be a strike or demonstration of sorts. And so we continue towards the wall pedal to the metal.

A democratic government should exist only by the consent of the governed. The government should be terrified of the people. Of course you have to be able to filter out the signal from the noise and majority vs minority desires, but by and large if a change is majorly unpopular, they should be terrified of trying to push it through.
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