Sad, but I'm unsurprised by this. Is it just me, or USA (or most modern governments) seem to be trying to copy China's economic and governmental model? Specially conservatives. I get the impression they are jealous of the PRC.
OpenAI ‘in early talks to give 5% stake to US government’
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#132Re: OpenAI ‘in early talks to give 5% stake to US government’
#133Taxes are theft. This is absurd. There’s zero reason to bail these ding dongs out. Their entire business proposition has been to keep warm by incinerating fresh cash.
No, taxes are taxes and theft is theft. Taxes are, in the case of a country like the United States, a legally sanctioned, representative approved (indirectly voter approved) means of supporting the needs of the nation/state as a whole. Theft is distinguished from say, gifting money by consent. In a democracy mechanisms exist for our representatives to make decisions according to the consent of the people, to an exten…
Right, I didn't approve my money taken away.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll take Sam over amodei. It's a both are bad choice.
Sam, the proprietor of Woldcoin? Amodei might play hardball, but he's got nothing on sama's evil villain ambitions.
Why downvote me for an opinion?
Anyways, I'll take a liar over a zealot anyday.
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#135I sound conspiratorial - but everything happening in the US around AI + Crypto has the fingerprints of David Sacks and Theil on it. You can hear them talk about these things and then they happen. Sacks has talked extensively about the US government having stakes in tech companies for months and months on the All In pod. It seems like saw Russian Oligarchs and instead of being morally repulsed they thought "hmm that i…
> It seems like saw Russian Oligarchs and instead of being morally repulsed they thought "hmm that is quite nice, I would like that"
Trump was saying that for years. He admires Putin. And you guys have still elected him.
Re: OpenAI ‘in early talks to give 5% stake to US government’
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sam, the proprietor of Woldcoin? Amodei might play hardball, but he's got nothing on sama's evil villain ambitions.
Why downvote me for an opinion? Anyways, I'll take a liar over a zealot anyday.
You're asking the wrong person, I didn't downvote you. I am challenging your opinion with evidence of sama's uniquely sinister ambitions.
Can you elucidate why you think Sam is the better horse to bet on? From what I can see, he's the biggest zealot by quite a margin, in addition to being a chronic liar.
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#137It would not be without problems and mistakes in execution over time, but I think the US and our NATO allies should nationalize AI research and development in a sweeping manner, and NATO membership ought be revised to hinge on that. In the US, for example, all intellectual property of OpenAI, Anthropic, et al. would become public domain through custody of the Federal government, probably in an expansion of the NSF. A…
Oh, you have NATO allies now? And in the future what… “we leave NATO if you don’t buy enough “tokens”? Go and build a wall.
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#138How much is a 5% stake in a money pit really worth?
Zero until they turn a profit.
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#139We may not see it yet, but, this is a way to capture government and use that to suppress competition and any dissent. The moment the government owns equity, every regulatory decision becomes conflicted. The top 3-4 AI companies in whic the givernment owns equity, will become too politically entangled to fail or to let fail or be meaningfully competed against, or "allowed" to be competed against. This will also lead t…
Good. Maybe this will incentivize a push to make the regulatory agencies truly independent, like the fed. the executive branch is clearly not up to the task.
The Supreme Court this week announced they would not allow independent regulatory agencies but the Federal Reserve.
Re: OpenAI ‘in early talks to give 5% stake to US government’
#140Taxes are theft. This is absurd. There’s zero reason to bail these ding dongs out. Their entire business proposition has been to keep warm by incinerating fresh cash.
How is it a bailout if the government just takes 5% of the shares?
The bailouts and or special treatment start afterward.