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Re: Pollen tried to remove my article and Google is assisting with it

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post #88

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You could also require a signed letter that has been properly notarized. Again, adds an independent 3rd party with a verified identity and something to loose. And falsifying is a crime.

Notaries aren't accountable for the content of the documents they notarize. They're only responsible for making sure the signatures they are witnessing come from the correct people. They'd be happy to notarize DMCA takedowns, since it's nothing more than income for them.

I understand, but then you know the real identity of the person requesting the take down, which was an issue in the story here.

Re: Pollen tried to remove my article and Google is assisting with it

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post #34

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> I think a more sane approach would to require every copyright takedown to require a court order. In a country with an efficient legal system, maybe… Requiring the claimant to put something at stake (make it a nominal deposit you get back in case of either no challenge or the case actually going to court) seems more realistic, but I’m not holding my breath for a reform of the law to that extent.

Why does DMCA need to be handled quickly?

Because one of the requirements the law sets out is that the content be removed "expeditiously" upon receipt of a takedown notice.

Re: Pollen tried to remove my article and Google is assisting with it

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> Why does Google allow fraudulent DMCA notices to be filed with no penalty? Because there is no law that requires a penalty. It's very common on YT, if you are big enough of a company you can file them willy nilly and never get any consequence

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Re: Pollen tried to remove my article and Google is assisting with it

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A few months ago I got in touch with Google legal team to remove an ad that wasn't legal. They said that they don't moderate third party content. (???? Bro what?). Except for this bogus excuse, the ad was paid for by a foreign state trying to influence my country's opinion on some non profit organizations. The ad wasn't compliant with the European regulation on political ads (in my opinion). I thought of getting in t…

Did you try to negatively impact their profit? And you expected them to act on it? Are you crazy? /s

Re: Pollen tried to remove my article and Google is assisting with it

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post #84

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> but I don't see any evidence Isn't this screenshot on the article evidence https://storage.ghost.io/c/39/f8/39f85cc7-8637-40fc-a57c-f45... ? Or could it still be the "I can't believe it's not DMCA" you've mentioned?

I don't know how to tell the difference. Google has incentive to hide this

after reading yours and themaninthedark comments I understand what you're getting at

Re: Pollen tried to remove my article and Google is assisting with it

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post #17

Ah, yes, you know someone's desperate when you see a bogus DMCA claim like this. Not the first time this happened and definitely won't be the last. This also demonstrates why it is bad for a law to mandate private entities to do moderation, in this case taking down copyright infringement materials when reported. Google, like basically all big platforms, doesn't care if a claim is fraudulent because the parties impact…

That, and filing false claims should be incredibly punishable, like beyond all proportion.

One disgusting CEO landing behind the bars over frivolous DMCA takedown would improve things dramatically, like for humanity (or a hefty chunk thereof that's browsing the web, anyway).

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