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Linux on Older Hardware: The Complete Revival Guide

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Re: Linux on Older Hardware: The Complete Revival Guide

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It is not "bad faith" to assert experiences that differ from yours. "Bad faith" is (per Wikipedia) > a sustained form of deception which consists of entertaining or pretending to entertain one set of feelings while acting as if influenced by another.

That didn't answer my original question: which modern batteries-included linux distro competing with macos or windows 11 idles at 150mb? Hence why it's a bad faith comment. It moves the goalposts to throws bs accusations without facts to back it up as a valid argument.

The discussion started with someone telling you "I have currently 2 browsers open and my memory commit is 370MB". Nothing about the concept of "modernity" (which is entirely subjective) there. Then someone else explicitly told you that "idling at 150mb" would entail swapping in a lightweight wm/compositor. You are the one moving the goalposts by insisting on a "modern batteries-included linux distro competing with macos or windows 11".

Nobody that you're arguing with ever suggested that "Modern Gnome and KDE distros with batteries included" would give you that experience. They only told you that it's available on Linux. That said, as I told you, Mint/Cinnamon uses considerably less than what you report (which surprised me), and you can do much better than that out of box (like, say, Mint/Xfce).

Nobody "threw bs accusations without facts" at you. You are the one accusing others of "bad faith" argumentation (despite the fact that even if others were doing what you claim, it wouldn't meet the definition I already gave you).

Please stop.

Re: Linux on Older Hardware: The Complete Revival Guide

#132

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That didn't answer my original question: which modern batteries-included linux distro competing with macos or windows 11 idles at 150mb? Hence why it's a bad faith comment. It moves the goalposts to throws bs accusations without facts to back it up as a valid argument.

Any distro. You just install a very light display manager like cdm(or no dm) and a light window manager/compositor (icewm, windowmaker,fluxbox i3/sway). I tested it on Fedora. I tend to use Gnome as a main desktop s I like all the bell and whistles but use lighter config on VMs to save on RAM use. I reckon you could probably go below 100MB with a distro that doesn't use systemd. Have a bit of decency and try it befor…

>I tested it on Fedora.

And did you get below 150mb ram usage in Fedora? Can you show any proof of this or are making stuff up?

>I reckon you could probably

'I reckon you could proabaly' is not proof of anything. I tested AntiX linux couldn't get below 150mb and that's in no way a competitor to Fedora with a modern DE.

>Have a bit of decency and try it before talking about bad faith.

No, you have the decency and post proof of your claims. You're the one with the "sub 150mb" claim, it's your responsibility to prove it, not mine.

Re: Linux on Older Hardware: The Complete Revival Guide

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The point is that I find it difficult to believe that Gnome/KDE are that much worse. Please consider being more kind and charitable to others, before you make your own demands.

>The point is that I find it difficult to believe that Gnome/KDE are that much worse.

Just because you find something hard to believe doesn't mean you're right about it.

>Please consider being more kind and charitable to others, before you make your own demands.

I only demand people talk in good faith. Is that too much to ask for? If I talk about Toyotas and people disagree with my take but use Lamborghinis as examples instead of the Toyotas I was originally talking about, that's a bad faith argument.

Re: Linux on Older Hardware: The Complete Revival Guide

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You don't even have to go that old. There are so many companies that upgrade tiny pc's its created a whole self hosting community with the tiny lenovo, hp and dell unit's. It's not only Windows that can be replaced with old hardware but also many online services with proxmox for cloud/nas/dns/vpn/multimedia etc. Of course these are not 2GB systems but you can do some pretty cool things with 8 and 9 year old systems t…

I work at an ewaste recycling company. Since I started working there over a year ago, over half the micro/tiny desktops I've seen come in are 7th gen i5 at least. In fact, I was using a Dell Optiplex 7050 Micro until about a month ago.

They could make so much money selling them. I hope they do. I bought a M920 tiny Lenovo with 32GB of RAM and an i5-8500. Stuck a 2TB NVME (when they were reasonable) and the whole thing cost me like $400. It's a proxmox workhorse and a couple of years later I can probably get more than double what I paid for it.

Re: Linux on Older Hardware: The Complete Revival Guide

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You don't even have to go that old. There are so many companies that upgrade tiny pc's its created a whole self hosting community with the tiny lenovo, hp and dell unit's. It's not only Windows that can be replaced with old hardware but also many online services with proxmox for cloud/nas/dns/vpn/multimedia etc. Of course these are not 2GB systems but you can do some pretty cool things with 8 and 9 year old systems t…

Those old tiny/micro PCs make for wonderful TV steaming boxes, and easily replace Fire TV sticks, AppleTV boxes, Rokus and other similar proprietary garbage. They are also great for retro gaming.

What software do you run on the streaming boxes.
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