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Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by scottyah »

thewebguyd wrote: post #106
scottyah wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How could it not? I get the whole fear of AI making robots and going anti-human, but after using the tech for a few months now that seems too absurd.

Because (collective) we don't own the tech. Frontier models are proprietary, their reasoning logic is hidden, and as seen with Fable the government giveth and taketh away on a whim. Capabilities can be gated behind certification programs, or by money, or any other numerous corrupt and non-corrupt means. Model capabilities can be segregated by pricing tiers, creating an economic underclass that cannot afford access to…

Do you hate all lessons from humanity's past or just the most important ones? If it takes work from a specific subset of the population and isn't compensated, then my friend, what you advocate for is slavery...

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by jrockway »

thewebguyd wrote: post #106
scottyah wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How could it not? I get the whole fear of AI making robots and going anti-human, but after using the tech for a few months now that seems too absurd.

Because (collective) we don't own the tech. Frontier models are proprietary, their reasoning logic is hidden, and as seen with Fable the government giveth and taketh away on a whim. Capabilities can be gated behind certification programs, or by money, or any other numerous corrupt and non-corrupt means. Model capabilities can be segregated by pricing tiers, creating an economic underclass that cannot afford access to…

I agree with this. Computing as a field is the way it is because there is a low barrier to entry. My dad gave me a Tandy 1000 and some programming books, and now I have a very lucrative career. I never took any classes. I never had to beg anyone for permission. I could just get started making things with the minimal investment of a cheap personal computer. (And eventually, an Internet connection. Working with other people is fun!)

In a world where everyone is a Claude controller (something I honestly enjoy!), that goes away. I use hundreds of dollars of tokens a month. Suddenly, the kid in her basement with an unloved computer can't get in on the ground floor. You have to be rich to even get started. That worries me deeply. It's a big change for our field, and I don't think it's a good one.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by swader999 »

From their terms: 'Identity and Contact Data: Anthropic collects identifiers, including your name, email address, and phone number when you sign up for an Anthropic account, or to receive information on our Services. We may also collect or generate indirect identifiers (e.g., “USER12345”).'

Too bad we can't contact them if we have issues.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by chipgap98 »

Aurornis wrote: post #126
throwaw12 wrote: post #11

Couple years ago the West was complaining about surveillance and scoring system of citizens in China (or was making fun of it) Seems like US wants to get ahead on this and be #1 Also Sam Altman will love this idea, because he already tried it with Worldcoin

> Couple years ago the West was complaining about surveillance and scoring system of citizens in China (or was making fun of it) Comparing a private company's service to something run and maintained by an entire government on their population is disingenuous, to say the least.

Why is that any different? What’s to stop that company sharing information with the government?

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by axus »

thewebguyd wrote: post #106
scottyah wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How could it not? I get the whole fear of AI making robots and going anti-human, but after using the tech for a few months now that seems too absurd.

Because (collective) we don't own the tech. Frontier models are proprietary, their reasoning logic is hidden, and as seen with Fable the government giveth and taketh away on a whim. Capabilities can be gated behind certification programs, or by money, or any other numerous corrupt and non-corrupt means. Model capabilities can be segregated by pricing tiers, creating an economic underclass that cannot afford access to…

AI isn't the problem, concentration of power is the problem. I think we agree!

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by exceptione »

Also, Anthropic will maintain and use data in user identified form if the law does not prohibit such privacy intrusion. At least this is a valid interpretation imho; note the absence of "explicitly" as adverb for "permitted":

  «Where data is de-identified, Anthropic will maintain and use this information in its de-identified form, and will not attempt to re-identify such information, except as permitted by law.»

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by swader999 »

MisterKent wrote: post #112

If Fable is only for US citizens, presumably that will apply to enterprises as well. I used fable on some difficult stuff and it was surprisingly good. It's safe to say that models aren't going to get worse. Does that mean: US citizens will get an edge in hireability? Assuming: 1. Non-US companies can't keep up Or 2. That model improvements continue to convince management of productivity improvements

How does open router work then if we just go through that?

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by baq »

SimianSci wrote: post #14

More signal that the open-weight models should be our destiny as an industry. These proprietary models are being used to usher in more surveillance and gatekeeping across the industry.

More signal this won’t happen without some serious social unrest, not garden variety Jan 6 events… and the window is closing rapidly - when this tech gets sufficiently advanced there won’t be a place to hide.
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