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Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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So I started biking recently and was hunting for helmets. And turns out Virgina Tech does a bunch of helmet impact testing and maintains a ranking list https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/ . The latest helmets have a releasable layer that absorbs (converts rotational energy?) more impact. This HUD is pretty slick. In a way, it's more preventative (avoiding accidents) vs. reactive (absorbing impact in an accident) safety w…

Big shoutout to this study! Highly recommend donating if you get any value from these lists

> The latest helmets have a releasable layer that absorbs (converts rotational energy?) more impact.

MIPS? Or is there something newer

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

#132
post #61

I'm sure I'm just being a crotchety old graybeard but I ride my bikes to get away from this crap. I do use Strava to track my rides on my watch but I don't even look at it until the ride is over.

I don't have strava or anything. I don't even know how long my rides are, my best times, my altitude. I just go for a ride; successfully capturing the exact feeling of riding since I was a teenager.

I personally find strava culture to generally be toxic and annoying, though the above poster seems to use it in a genuine way. 8A is similar in the climbing community. Similar to Github: what starts out as an honest need for tracking and documentation turns into a social-media-showboating circus.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

#133
post #54

As someone who commutes in traffic daily, this is not what I need or want. First up, it looks heavy and badly-ventilated, and then there's the potential for distracting info blocking my view of the actual road in front of me. Even if it was really good info (which would take really good sensors, plus a lot of compute to cram onboard), I am skeptical it'd be better than, you know, paying attention to your surroundings…

What information would your bike send to the car in this example that would help? We're closer to having lidar in all new cars than this mesh network, so "There's a bike behind you travelling approximately X speed" is something the car already knows. "The cyclist requested you not to turn in front of him" - why would anyone ever send anything else? Perhaps the car can send you a message instead "I'm going to cut you…

The idea would be more like the car, not the human behind the wheel, would realize that if it right-hooked me that would be bad (read insurance-increasing, citeable offense, etc.) and wait, where the driver would just keep flipping through their playlist and crush me.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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While this is cool, I’m really surprised that eyeglass or sunglasses manufacturers haven’t doubled down on simple HUDs. In swimming there are the FORM goggles [0], but everything in the sunglasses space is focused on voice and cameras (looking at you Meta).

I really just want a basic, simple HUD that can display speed, distance, pace, HR from other sources. I don’t care about it being standalone, I already have a bike computer, phone, and watch.

- [0] - https://www.formswim.com/products/smart-swim-2-lt-goggles

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

#135
post #78

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I'm pretty convinced mips is just marketing. Hair will do the same thing. That's why in rock climbing world, petzl hasn't even bothered with it when they're usually very forward thinking about their designs (first company to do side impact testing).

MIPS is increasingly common in rock helmets. Black Diamond (anecdotally the most common brand I see in the US) now has it in their higher end models, and Mammut as well.

Petzl makes better helmets than BD. They pioneered the ultralight foam kind with the sirocco that everyone (including BD and Mammut) copied. Yet they still don't care about MIPS.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

#136
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MIPS is great but every layer is a tradeoff with venting. without MIPS the vents allow air onto your scalp. with MIPS you effectively have a plastic shower cap over your head, beneath the EVA foam insulator. I'm anti MIPS

I'm looking at my 2 MIPS helmets right now and your comment is complete nonsense. If anything the MIPS layer will allow for more breathability.

how does a plastic liner improve breathability? the foam layer has clearance over the scalp/ hair. The mips layer sits over the scalp and prevents airflow.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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post #72
post #47

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MIPS is great but every layer is a tradeoff with venting. without MIPS the vents allow air onto your scalp. with MIPS you effectively have a plastic shower cap over your head, beneath the EVA foam insulator. I'm anti MIPS

There are multiple MIPS systems. The early ones were like you described, with a distinct feeling of too much plastic. Newer ones (e.g. Integra) are much more seamless. There are also other companies doing different types of rotational tech, like Lazer with an integral foam-based shearing design. If you have only tried first-gen MIPS, I recommend giving it another shot.

thanks that's actually helpful. I wasn't aware of the revisions. i have a 2023/2024 POC with mips. I'm guessing it's gen whatever. I'm sure a lot of people don't mind it. I ride a lot and sweat a lot so I'm more sensitive to airflow than most.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

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post #104
post #88

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That's not a basis for your claim.

What? GP's claim is that hair provides a similar benefit. VA is simply not testing heads with hair on them -- their tests can't "show otherwise" (your claim).

> GP's claim is that hair provides a similar benefit.

GP provides no evidence for that. VA Tech not addressing it (if it's true that they don't - I have no reason to believe it) is not evidence. VA Tech also doesn't address my theory that microscopic super-intelligent aliens affect helmet response.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

#139

To anyone who wants to ride more safely I cannot recommend enough this simple $20 mirror which I find so valuable that I buy extra and hand them out to friends and strangers to help keep them safer. A mirror mounted on your glasses or a similar mirror affixed to your helmet (close to your eyes and mounted on your head) allows for a large field of view that you can easily steer to see behind you. I ride on the streets…

This looks like a choice is a serious eye injury if you roll is something you're looking for. Why not buy a handlebar mirror like this one https://cateye.com/intl/products/accessories/BM-45/ I have one on each of my bikes, road/gavel/fitness. Dirt cheap, gives very good rear visibility and very compact size.

Handlebar mirrors won’t give you as much field of view and you can’t steer them with your head.

Re: Canyon HUD helmet for road riding

#140
post #91

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I'm surprised it doesn't tie into taillight radars. I've been intrigued by those but I don't want to deal with also buying a bike computer to see its output (plus the brand that's considered the "best" still uses micro-usb)

the new varia is usb-c

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