The term "forced consent" is an oxymoron. It shouldn't take much more critical thinking than reading that term to know it makes no sense.
I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M
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Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Once I rented an apartment in US, and the documents said that they can make videos, pictures and audio recordings of me and my family, and use it for their own purposes including commercial. I objected, but their position was that no one is going to involve legal department for me, and I am free to go away.
Rentals are exactly what I was talking about. Supposedly you can always go to someone else, but we all know in practice we can't just go without housing and if everyone decides you're "difficult," you're SOL. Earlier this week a potential landlord offered me a lease saying I had already inspected the property and found no issues with it. I asked for a chance to actually inspect before signing, and even said I would s…
Sounds like typical high pressure salesmanship.
Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M
#133Eveyone getting very excited but on what date did the company actually pay the fine to the EU?
> This decision can nevertheless be challenged before Norwegian courts in accordance with Article 78(1) of the GDPR. [0]
Time will tell I guess?
[0] https://www.datatilsynet.no/contentassets/59addbef9c1b48a28f...
Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M
#134I am glad this was resolved. It’s annoying when companies take things for granted. It’s not just Elkjøp doing it. There are other e commerce companies and some online pharmacies doing it too.
Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M
#135The term "forced consent" is an oxymoron. It shouldn't take much more critical thinking than reading that term to know it makes no sense.
Agreed. It’s an idiotic euphemism.
Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M
#136I personally know other people who have filed similar complaints, and the Norwegian Datatilsynet explicitly stated they acted based on many complaints. I don't think they care about a single person's voice in this, even if they "helped create the law".
It's a shame, but it probably says more about Datatilsynet's capacity. Frankly it would be great if you could simply say "this company did something dodgy", provide proof, and immediately get results. But that's not the world we live in.
Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They're not going build a document sharing platform to get their job done just so they can meet the regs. What is so hard in respecting the spirit of the law?
Becauae "spirit of the law" doesnt exist. It is a saying used by people when they want to do something that isnt in the law. You dont see lawyers, judges or law makers use the phrase.
Yes they obviously do use it?
Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M
#138Idk about that particular company but the benefit of cheating may be much higher than the 1.8m fine they got.
I personally never specifically consent to anything, yet get a ton of marketing emails. To most companies that send me those emails 1.8m would be a slap on the wrist.
Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Once I rented an apartment in US, and the documents said that they can make videos, pictures and audio recordings of me and my family, and use it for their own purposes including commercial. I objected, but their position was that no one is going to involve legal department for me, and I am free to go away.
Rentals are exactly what I was talking about. Supposedly you can always go to someone else, but we all know in practice we can't just go without housing and if everyone decides you're "difficult," you're SOL. Earlier this week a potential landlord offered me a lease saying I had already inspected the property and found no issues with it. I asked for a chance to actually inspect before signing, and even said I would s…
> I asked if they could change that part of the lease. They said they were "unable" due to "demand and interest in the property."
Was it a paper lease? Because you could always cross out that section before signing, not to mention write in your own addendum. They would probably still balk, but you'd be within your rights to do so.
Re: I told them forced consent was unlawful. 5 years later it cost Elkjop €1.8M
#140The term "forced consent" is an oxymoron. It shouldn't take much more critical thinking than reading that term to know it makes no sense.
It's one of those situations that the words lose their meanings but the expression makes you understand a situation better. This is like a manufactured consent that comes with a threat. A similar example would be "coerced confession" or maybe even "forced smile".