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Feds freaked over Fable 5 after 'fix this code', not jailbreak, say researchers

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Re: Feds freaked over Fable 5 after 'fix this code', not jailbreak, say researchers

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No, it's regulatory capture. Anthropic is the current leader and they want to ensure their position by forcing regulation to stamp out the Chinese competition.

> Anthropic is the current leader How's that determined?

API usage? They are for sure leading in the enterprise world

Re: Feds freaked over Fable 5 after 'fix this code', not jailbreak, say researchers

#132

> Anthropic and Google have both accused China-based rivals including DeepSeek of using “distillation attacks” to train their models by siphoning knowledge from American companies’ AI. “distillation attacks” is definitely an interesting way to phrase that.

It's the term used in the industry, fwiw

Re: Feds freaked over Fable 5 after 'fix this code', not jailbreak, say researchers

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Isn’t the inverse of this “hack” really difficult to bypass still? They have the model some code they knew had certain security flaws and it fixed them with the right prompt. It seems this type of jailbreak requires that you already know a desired end state, rather than relying on the model to do the heavy creative lift work. Perhaps I’m just not being imaginative enough on the prompt side here though.

You can assume a desired end state and try and brute force it finding a security bug.

Re: Feds freaked over Fable 5 after 'fix this code', not jailbreak, say researchers

#135

Did they try other publicly available models on the same code with the same prompts before the ban? Was Fable the only one which was able to detect and fix the security vulnerabilities?

Anthropic claimed that Mythos' degree of security vulnerability bug finding was a "severe" "national security" issue. They set their own standards they were expected to follow.

Re: Feds freaked over Fable 5 after 'fix this code', not jailbreak, say researchers

#136

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Ok, and how is that determined? How does anthropic know my "kernel" project isn't a personal toy and not the Linux kernel? How does anthropic determine I'm a legitimate kernel hacker? What proof do I give them and how does it tie back to my email? What would the steps be to create a new project? Do I need to send anthropic a list of my team members each time and keep them updated as the company changes? Shall I be gi…

> What proof do I give them and how does it tie back to my email? Presumably your ID so that feds may pay you a visit when they feel like it, your email need not apply. I’m surprised that there’s even enough pushback against ID verification to matter, all the corpos are probably salivating at the idea of having fully accurate profiles of everyone, think of the ad and product targeting. The govt. would also love that,…

I'd honestly much rather give my ID to a Chinese model than an American one. If the American ones start requesting ID I'm out. I'm on a gemini organizational account right now that gives me pro but is directly tied to my organizational SSO. So that's something already. I just refuse to upload my face and drivers license anywhere ever.

Re: Feds freaked over Fable 5 after 'fix this code', not jailbreak, say researchers

#138

Don't people get it by now? This administration will do or say something crazy to a private company, then this private company sends an envoy to the White House to negotiate, then the White House asks for 10% of the company or other concessions. The White House wants 10% of Anthropic. This is just a negotiation tactic that Trump keeps on using.

Private companies subservient to the state, just the continuation of MAGA fascist development

Re: Feds freaked over Fable 5 after 'fix this code', not jailbreak, say researchers

#139

They weren't freaked by anything, it's a retaliatory shakedown after ideological differences and Anthropic not doing exactly what they're told/what the Admin wants them to do.

Yep, people are expanding way too much mental energy on basic bribery. Anthropic will agree to work with the DoD, WH insiders will get some lucrative pre-IPO allocation and Fable will be magically "fixed" and available again.
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