Kirkland Roundabouts
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Re: Kirkland Roundabouts
#132I've been driving roundabouts for decades, and think they're great - they really help with traffic flow. I've never found them confusing. I had to drive this specific Kirkland roundabout the other day, and ended up missing my offramp and going in completely the wrong direction. It's the most confusing roundabout I've ever seen.
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#133Re: Kirkland Roundabouts
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
I live moments away from this roundabout. It's confusing. Single-lane roundabouts are really straightforward. You're either clear to enter, or you're not. Adding lanes makes it far more confusing. I consider myself, you know, pretty smart. Not stupid, at least. But I almost sideswiped someone in this roundabout the other day. Years of driving experience gave me an intuition that the middle lane would not cross over t…
> Single-lane roundabouts are really straightforward Like the Arc de Triomphe roundabout? :) If it had lane marking there would apparently be 10 tracks around the circle. What makes it seem crazy is cars entering have right of way. The reason it works seems to be French attitude. Cars entering do their thing, and cars already going around do their thing (and just have to avoid anyone on their right).
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#135Hey all, I'm the author of this game. I didn't expect to see it on HN! I wrote it to add some fun to all the conversations happening in the local forums about this roundabout. They've been heated at times. And, yes, this roundabout is right next to the Kirkland Costco. I definitely agree with all the critiques of the gameplay - and I have about 100 more. I cut it down to the bare essentials to get it done while it's…
For bonus points, tackle Tumwater next! https://www.google.com/maps/@46.9995932,-122.9095898,279m/da... This thing is a nightmare of newly constructed, but with poor signage, rapid lane changes required at times, and "wait, which roundabout?"
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
I live moments away from this roundabout. It's confusing. Single-lane roundabouts are really straightforward. You're either clear to enter, or you're not. Adding lanes makes it far more confusing. I consider myself, you know, pretty smart. Not stupid, at least. But I almost sideswiped someone in this roundabout the other day. Years of driving experience gave me an intuition that the middle lane would not cross over t…
> Single-lane roundabouts are really straightforward Like the Arc de Triomphe roundabout? :) If it had lane marking there would apparently be 10 tracks around the circle. What makes it seem crazy is cars entering have right of way. The reason it works seems to be French attitude. Cars entering do their thing, and cars already going around do their thing (and just have to avoid anyone on their right).
The thing that’s bananas is that this is a City of Paris rule. In the rest of France, traffic entering a roundabout must yield. Not inside Paris. Better make sure you know this!
And even more crazy, the Periphérique, the controlled-access ring road around Paris which tends to move at 40-50mph, is a city street and so traffic entering that highway-like “street” also has right-of-way.
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#137The biggest issue is they are an infrequently used traffic control device in the US. So infrequent, I don't think they even appear in the WA drivers handbook which is kind of shocking.
As a by product, you see the craziest driver behaviour in Seattle on them:
1) No one uses their indicators/turn signals as they approach. This is a major issue because it makes the roundabout incredibly ineffective, as every driver needs to treat it effectively like a 4-way stop because you don't know the intentions of the cars around you. 2) Drivers will enter the roundabout, then stop at another entryway if a car approaches. This makes no sense, as the approaching car would need to yield or stop, so it slows the traffic down again. 3) Drivers will wait at an entrance until all other cars are clear of the roundabout before entering. Again, makes no sense - you wouldn't do that on a cross-road if two cars were both indicating right etc.
Definitely need more driver education on the humble roundabout!
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#138Re: Kirkland Roundabouts
#139I don't think roundabouts are complex, treat them like a giveway/yield and they are brilliant. The biggest issue is they are an infrequently used traffic control device in the US. So infrequent, I don't think they even appear in the WA drivers handbook which is kind of shocking. As a by product, you see the craziest driver behaviour in Seattle on them: 1) No one uses their indicators/turn signals as they approach. Th…
They are definitely in the handbook. Couple different types, with pictures and diagrams, and written instructions.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
For bonus points, tackle Tumwater next! https://www.google.com/maps/@46.9995932,-122.9095898,279m/da... This thing is a nightmare of newly constructed, but with poor signage, rapid lane changes required at times, and "wait, which roundabout?"
Tumwater. What you get when you put the wrong tablet in your denture bath.