This smells like anti-competitive behavior, no? Amazon snitching to the government re: Anthropic doesn't seem particularly "open market" to me.
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> That's why school shootings pretty much never happened before the 1970s This claim is gonna need a lot more evidence.
Here's from Wikipedia all the mass shootings conducted by students prior to the 1970s. They're incredibly infrequent compared to the shootings of today, March 26, 1893 – Plain Dealing, Louisiana (Plain Dealing High School): During an evening school dance, a fight broke out. Students fired shots, killing two immediately, fatally wounding two more, and injuring a professor (total: 4 killed, 1 wounded). December 12, 189…
One could just as easily blame the change on the availability of color TV, or cultural shifts that took place in the 1960s.
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I would speculate that they were concerned, as many people familiar with frontier AI models are, that they are dangerous and could be misused to do bad things.
Yeah... because Amazon is famous for caring about safety over profits...
If Amazon's stake in Anthropic goes up 10x, but American national security is fatally compromised in the process, I kinda doubt that's net profitable for Amazon. They're not going to be able to deliver in 2 days or hit AWS sales targets if everyone's drowning in cyberattacks.
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#134This smells like anti-competitive behavior, no? Amazon snitching to the government re: Anthropic doesn't seem particularly "open market" to me.
Amazon invests in Anthropic, and has partnership with them on AWS Bedrock.
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Everything you said is here is wildly and completely inaccurate and seems to be based on fringe conspiracy theorist RFK Jr's thoroughly debunked lies. The exact opposite is true. Countries with the highest SSRI use have the lowest mass shooting rates. The evidence doesn't lie. Politicians do. https://www.factcheck.org/2025/10/rfk-jr-misleads-about-anti...
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> other countries have much less firearm ownership.
Interesting. Why do you think countries with lower firearm ownership rates have fewer shootings?
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Crazy to think that people in some places in the world work for $2 per day. Jailbraking fable is economically equivalent to the labor of a thousand people.
Wait until you hear how many families could survive on the food you throw away
Yeah but that's a distribution problem, not a production one. The starving Africans line didn't work on me as a kid.
(tongue firmly in cheek)
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#137I still am struggling to understand why they informed the government about something that is known to be an issue in every LLM. There is no LLM that cannot be jailbroken, so unless this means that we have reached the absolute maximum publicly accessible US made LLMs are allowed to operate at with GPT 5.5, this is not grounded in any sane regulation attempt. Does anyone know what limits Fable 5 has overstepped in the…
Claims of retribution aside, one steelman is that Mythos is likely the most capable model that's usable by folks like the NSA [1], and decision-makers across the USG and industry partners have seen a stream of reports of Mythos successfully finding serious vulnerabilities over the past couple months due to Glasswing. So even if GPT 5.5 is just as capable in these scenarios (which, imo, it largely is), it is not known…
I doubt that the capabilities of GPT-5.5-cyber aren’t known by the US government considering OpenAI is their primary LLM partner after Anthropic had concerns about using models for autonomous weaponry and mass surveillance of US citizens. If anything, they should have more experience in GPT-5.5s full feature set due to longer access and may even already have GPT-5.6 access.
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#138> Researchers at Amazon had used a series of prompts to get Anthropic’s Fable 5 model to provide them with information that could be used to aid cyberattacks... Are there going to be bans on things that could be used to aid in school shootings next?
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> That's why school shootings pretty much never happened before the 1970s
School shootings didn't happen for multiple reasons that are not SSRIs:
- Semi-automatic and automatic weapons weren't available to the public
- There were no video games and few movies glorifying a lone gunman "getting revenge" on a society that spurned them (there movies about gangsters, or war movies)
- There was no anti-American/facist "militia/tactical" cultural meme
- There was not yet any widely known stories of suicide-by-cop and fame via mass-murder
- The American cultural ethos had not yet turned cynical; once Vietnam and Nixon's betrayal happened, it was all downhill
- We stopped locking up crazy people in insane asylums
- Social isolation and urbanism increased population density and animosityRe: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models
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Claims of retribution aside, one steelman is that Mythos is likely the most capable model that's usable by folks like the NSA [1], and decision-makers across the USG and industry partners have seen a stream of reports of Mythos successfully finding serious vulnerabilities over the past couple months due to Glasswing. So even if GPT 5.5 is just as capable in these scenarios (which, imo, it largely is), it is not known…
I doubt that the capabilities of GPT-5.5-cyber aren’t known by the US government considering OpenAI is their primary LLM partner after Anthropic had concerns about using models for autonomous weaponry and mass surveillance of US citizens. If anything, they should have more experience in GPT-5.5s full feature set due to longer access and may even already have GPT-5.6 access.
They made a deal for access, but I'm unsure if it's usable, scaled, and has vulnerabilities attributed to it at this point. But I have no inside information here, so I could be wrong.
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It's just harder to get the average joe charged up to fight a battle with anything meaningful on the line. Americans are used to living relatively cushy lives where they don't sacrifice their QOL to make the lives of their countrymen better. The closest thing to that are people in the military, and it's probably been a while since the US military is improving QOL, on average. People will continue to be complacent on…
>harder to get the average joe charged up to fight a battle with anything meaningful on the line Doesn't this imply that on average people just don't care? So, school shooting preventions are just way down in the list of "things I care about", when you have "cushy lives where nobody wants to sacrifice their QOL".
It means they don't care enough to meaningfully make sacrifices for change. To deal with school shootings is to change the constitution. The American constitution is basically wired for school shootings. To change the constitution is basically a civil war.
Things aren't binary. Many people care deeply about school shootings. But they don't have the means or power to organize to stop them and, individually, they are powerless.